Pure Dual Claw attack Sin I'm thinking of ...

[Kaze]

Have seen some posts demanding builds / suggestions for a dragon claw assa , or assa that uses dual claws as main source of damage ...
How this sounds?

20 Dragon Claw
20 Claw Mastery
20 Claws of Thunder
20 Phoenix Strike
1 to BoS , SM , MB

The playin style would be left click default attack dragon claw , right claws of thunder .... and u do a rythmic alternate right - left click in almost all situations (I have noticed that using a dual claw charge up skill u get 2 charges with 1 click ... obvious i guess) then u would do nova + lightning claws damage in every attack ... and for some special situation u can 2 right clicks b4 the right click for releasing charged bolts also ... but is slower and u have to time the clicks more.

Is very simple and u cover all kind of situations with the same kind of strategy all time ... u have strong elemental and physical damage at once , very strong attack against single targets / bosses (claws of thunder deals the lightning damage per every claw and in addition to this the nova damage is applied also to the release target ... credit for this discover to BIGeyedBUG , i readed about it recently in the amazon bassin forum :howdy: ) and nice crowd damage with the nova release in each hit ...

It sounds very good to me , and seems a very solid build ... argh now im debating between this and my pure Phoenix Sin :scratch: it could be almost a new former sin build ;)

[BIGeyedBUG]

credit for this discover to BIGeyedBUG , i readed about it recently in the amazon bassin forum

It wasn't exactly a discovery--it's just than nobody could say for sure that the two were stacking.
claws of thunder deals the lightning damage per every claw
Just to be perfectly clear, all the charge-ups only release once, regardless of how many claws or what finisher you're using.

The build looks good...at least I hope it does because my current MA is pretty similar, just less points in DC. It's worth noting that it also gives you access to some puny fire damage for PI/LIs, and that long PS freeze time when ya wanna slooow it down a lil'. Also, CoT's third charge can be really nice in the right situation--often it'll kill ranged attackers at the edge of the screen (it's perfect for imps. :grrr:))

Do you have equipment in mind?

[Kaze]

Just to be perfectly clear, all the charge-ups only release once, regardless of how many claws or what finisher you're using.

Ah yes but what i mean is ... any charge is just released once yes ... but the effect of this 1st charge of CoT is applied to both claws when u release it if u release it with a dual claw fninisher right? so the lightning enhanced damage the 1st charge gives is applied to both claws if u release it with DC ... or not? is an important point ... thast what i meant , the second and 3rd charge effects are pretty clear (and released once also , as any charge , but their effect applies to surrounding monsters, not claws)

The build looks good...at least I hope it does because my current MA is pretty similar, just less points in DC. It's worth noting that it also gives you access to some puny fire damage for PI/LIs, and that long PS freeze time when ya wanna slooow it down a lil'. Also, CoT's third charge can be really nice in the right situation--often it'll kill ranged attackers at the edge of the screen (it's perfect for imps. :grrr:))

U mean Dragon Claw is not worthing maxning it? (the final more damage it gives vs a base point ...) i have no real experience with it beyond a base point with my Phoenix Sin, never has maxed it so i dont know its full effects.
And that fire damage u mention i assume u mean to max fist of fire with the not used points in DC right?





Do you have equipment in mind?Yes, Nat's set :)

[BIGeyedBUG]

so the lightning enhanced damage the 1st charge gives is applied to both claws if u release it with DC ... or not?

Nope. It's applied to your target, not your claw(s). I'm certain.

U mean Dragon Claw is not worthing maxning it?
No, not necessarily. I'm just spreading points around more and decided I couldn't max both CM and DC. Since CM helps every attack, I went with it. Your plan looks fine.
And that fire damage u mention i assume u mean to max fist of fire with the not used points in DC right?
No, although you could do that (and that might be what my Sin does). I was just referring to the PS Meteor you could fall back on if you run into LI/PIs.
Yes, Nat's set :)
:thumbsup: Whats your second claw?

[Kaze]

ah i was thinking of using jade talon ... or could be bartucs if i get an anilus for this assa ...