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Salo
14-04-2004, 03:58
I was doing the math on some builds.
I was noticing that "pro" strafe zons have a butt-load of points into Penetrate. (there's no correlation between the usage of Penetrate and butt-load in the same sentence, side note)

now im sitting here saying: well, if you have 25 strafe, wearing Shako, enigma/chains, and Highlords, I use an old WF with a 40/15% in it, i wear WTravs, I use LoH, I pit.... well. this is my damage. I do 100% ed with the strafe. I miss 2 of the monsters out of 7 im shooting at. (will happen, A LOT). now im doing 29% less damage to the screen, so im doing 71% ed to the screen. if you dont hit 2 monsters you could have with strafe, out of 7 on the screen, you get 29% less total damage. so.

Now I consider the build: if you need do FA as your PI killer and your defensive/alternative skill, you will need to be 91st level to get 60% avoid, to get 61% crit strike, to get 17th level Valk. now, no one is really shooting for above 85 in a build these days unless its your main love and then maybe 90th.

now im not sure, but it seems that multishot, being that you need NONE in penetrate besides 1 pt, it shoots farther off screen, it always hits, that well, 100% chance to hit those 7 monsters (plus always a couple more you didnt see, but we leave that out for now).... well, with the fact of KB being triggered constantly to the whole screen, i mean, this 109 sorta build is rather a good idea still wouldnt one think? you dont need massive ias, you dont need attack rating, you can go get 68% crit strike (figure thats like 11% total damage). and, you can get 20 in CA rather easily if you want to maximize FA...

I duno. and MULTI doesnt need more than say 18 arrows being shot at once. i mean, you could go 26 arrows and max it, but not that necessary on a tight spread.

i know i have seen someone consider this before, and it's old hat, im just avoiding having to be 88th level and having still problems hitting all hell monsters in a strafe volley (someone reported having 8000 ar and 88th level and still getting 86%..... my necro with his dagger gets 95% on baal and lots of biggies....)

lextalionis
14-04-2004, 19:14
I was a huge MS advocate in 1.09

Now, however, the damage has been reduced. So its really hard to make the damage decent. It has huge mana consumption, especially if you can't leech from your targets, you can only hit with one arrow of MS per volley, and last and worst there seems to be some nerf as to how often MS can cause knockback.

Jek
14-04-2004, 19:45
Just use an Eaglehorn. :P

Liessa Wyrmbane
14-04-2004, 19:56
My pure Strafer has:
- level 1 Penetrate
- level 1 Critical Strike
- no Freezing Arrow or any other elemental bow skills

Yet physical immunes are not any kind of problem to me. Nor is attack rating a problem for me (I have 10868 AR). Killing stuff in general is not a problem for me. Your argument that MS saves a lot of skill points isn't the thruth in all cases.

BarnBee7
14-04-2004, 21:19
How do you kill PI's?

JustGotOwned
14-04-2004, 21:24
How do you kill PI's?

Elemental charms i'm guessing. . .:scratch:

Liessa Wyrmbane
14-04-2004, 21:46
How do you kill PI's?
I use Witchwild String bow. It has free level 20 Magic Arrow and amp damage trigger on striking. PI's are not a problem.

JustGotOwned
15-04-2004, 00:14
I use Witchwild String bow. It has free level 20 Magic Arrow and amp damage trigger on striking. PI's are not a problem.


AAAAAAAH i forgot about good ol WWS, Not a bad PvP bow either. And with 1.10 you get 2 sockets instead of 1

lextalionis
15-04-2004, 00:56
AAAAAAAH i forgot about good ol WWS, Not a bad PvP bow either. And with 1.10 you get 2 sockets instead of 1

Yeah, WWS is arguable the best bow in the game. I think a WF is still slightly better, but both are great.

Maybe the funniest part of bow skills, is that you really need to know what weapon you are using before you allocate you allocate points.

Think about it:

Do I need Penetrate? Maybe not if your bow has AR bonus or ITD

Do you need Pierce? Some bows have 100% Pierce some have small amounts too.

Do you need PI skill? Maybe not. At times MA has looked good. WWS gives you a free high level MA with every shot.

Think about the strength level you need. WF has a huge strength requirement.

I'm just saying that there are so many good bows with different attributes that require different stat levels from your character.