ppl on b.net suck these days.... [Archive] - Diablo 3 & Diablo 2 Forums

Stiertje

14-04-2004, 03:05

Today i lost my Shako, skulders, and occulus to some1 i met on b.net....

I Currently play on USEast Ladder....dont know for how much longer tho...

I just got back into d2 about 3 weeks ago, after not playing since .09, i had to start completely over with nothing, and after 3 week of hard trading and lvling, i finally decided to sell everything i had up to that point to get some stuff to make an mf sorc, and i only knew 1 person on b.net some1 i had met the first week i started playing again, and when i xfered my stuff over to my new mf sorc....he just took it and left....i have no1 to xfer with....this sucks...if any1 could plz help me out i'd appreciate it, because i dont know if i'm gonna keep playing D2 with so many *** ppl on B.net....

Erm, so 1 person takes your stuff and now all of a sudden all players on b.net suck? Talking about generalising ..........

But seriously, you should never trust someone you "have just met" For most people these items are just too good to be true and they get greedy. Some you can trust in trades, for instance the traders on this forum, but most you just don't know and they don't know you.

And about transfering things, I know it's sometimes hard but it's not impossible. You can always make a passworded game, stay in it for a few minutes to perm it, and then transfer your things. When the game is permed it will still be there when you come back with another char. Remember not to do this too fast or else you will get banned from b.net for a period of time, and then the game WILL be gone.
Or you could try to build up a relationship with some players. I play almost every day with a friend (whom I've never met or something) and we share our items. We run Baal together and share the drops. We lend eatchother items (well, I seem to do the lending cause I just have more l33t itamz). Point is, we sometimes need eatchothers help. This makes a b.net relationship more durably, since greed will not quickly take you over.

Over-Dosed

14-04-2004, 04:19

sorry if it seemed like i was generalizing..i just ment that perhaps MOST not all the ppl on b.net are greedy and will do anythign to get better gear, but this guy wasnt some1 i had just met, i have known him for two weeks and i baaled with him everyday, and he even lent me his occy for a while before i got my own, he had muc better gear than me, and he seemed nice, and then he just changed and took my items....so i really didnt expect this at all, its just i got taken by surprise and i got angry...sorry if i offended any of the decent and honest b.net players out there

bigballerpaul

14-04-2004, 04:43

i usually make a private normal game, go take a shower or something (sometimes a poopie) and come back. that usually gives bnet enough time to temporarily store the game on its servers. the best thing to do when xfering by yourself is be patient. i have lost many very expensive items due to my own impatientness. here's my quick guide to self xfering

1. play on bnet for a while. check to see how the lag is and if you are losing connection in games and such.

2. if thats all good, make a private normal game. write the game name and password down or make one that is easy to remember. sucks to frantically type in every possible thing and not remember the game name.

3. wait at least 5 minutes. i know this seems like alot, but think of how many minutes you spend mf'ing or trading to get the items you got. i usually make a normal game, run all the bosses, then go off and eat something or come to the forums and read.

4. leave the game, exit bnet, sign back on, then check to see if the game is still there. sometimes you feel like you've waited 10 minutes, and the game is gone. be certain.

5. follow the music. if you log on and off with characters too fast and too many times you can get the "realm down" message. or you can get other various messages that will hinder your xfer. so the best thing that i do is listen to the annoying music. this allows me to slow down and wait about 20 seconds between each transition from the character selection screen to the lobby screen to the actual game and back out to the lobby screen again. going slow will help prevent those horror shocks. just remember that if you log on and off too many times, regardless of how slow, there is always a chance it will screw up.

6. dropping items. if you have really uber gear you are self-xfering, you might wanna take it one item at a time; and do it very, very slowly. sometimes i take a whole day or two but its worth all the time and effort spent into getting the really good items. and if you do lose something, at least you dont lose it all at the same time.

*disclaimer - this will not prevent you from losing items in an xfer. there will always be that risk until the structure of bnet changes.

just be patient. or if you are on useast you can whisper me at *lsu. that is, if you trust me. :evil:

Over-Dosed

14-04-2004, 04:59

thanks for the tip, i'll try doing that the next time i get something worth x-fering i gguess lol, but thanks at least i have a way to x-fer by myself now

G^2

14-04-2004, 05:07

yea Im gonna have to agree, people tend to be pretty classless on b.net. I've been doin NM rushes for people's hellforges (its alot more fun than doin hundreds of meph runs a day and can be just as rewarding) with my first char, a meteorb mf sorc. Now, it might just be that the people who want rushes or the peeps on USWEST are jerks in general, but atleast 50-60% of the ppl I rush leave after I kill mephy... I just got through a run where 6 people each scammed me one after another... I'm feelin the same way about quitin' d2 right now :rant:

now that im done whining peace out y'all :flip:

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Over-Dosed

14-04-2004, 18:51

Omg, my friend finally got into d2 again and he had a bunch of **** on ladder that he just gave me, its ****in awesome im back into d2 again...i dont even care about other b.neters anymore lol

kuza

14-04-2004, 19:46

if you need to xfer ****, just /msg *Gmankuza

I have a second computer I leave to mule all the time. I have a few friends that just know the game name and pass to join and mule. They are good guys and won't take your ****. Hell, we have more then enoguh anyway. When you have a 15% NW just sitting on a mule doing nothing, you knwo you have too much equipment, heh.

SoCal44

14-04-2004, 22:45

I felt like not playing anymore last night when I got screwed in the Tals Armor/Rattlecage switch.

Things like that just make the game no fun, the items I lost were some of the better ones I had, but what made it the worst is that he gets them for free basically.

I usually only play passworded games with friends, and doubt I'll play publicly anymore.

The amount of greed does suck, but thats what happens - in all games, and unfortuantly life too.

High Lord Bunbun

16-04-2004, 09:03

the main problem is the lack of repercussions for greed and deception/scamming/etc. Doing these things has absolutely no risk or negative effect on the scammer, unless he or she has a conscience, which most bnetters don't.

kuza

16-04-2004, 18:55

Well my offer still stands to people on this forums. I'm trustworthy and I have 2 computers goign at once. So I help my friends mule all the time.

Blazing Mary

16-04-2004, 19:39

[QUOTE=SoCal44]I felt like not playing anymore last night when I got screwed in the Tals Armor/Rattlecage switch.

Things like that just make the game no fun, the items I lost were some of the better ones I had, but what made it the worst is that he gets them for free basically.

I usually only play passworded games with friends, and doubt I'll play publicly anymore.

The amount of greed does suck, but thats what happens - in all games, and unfortuantly life too.[/QUOTE

I'm truly sad to hear that you were cheated in a trade but the Cardinal rule of trading is always, Always, ALWAYS check that the item in the trade window is the one you want before clicking OK.

The minute somebody says "Wait, I need to make room" or something like that and takes their item out of the window, that should Immediately send up a Red Flag to you to make sure you check the item the next time it appears in the window.

I nearly got cheated when trading for a pair of Vamp Gloves. The b*st*rd put up a cheap pair of leather gloves and clicked OK.

Jordan Helspont

16-04-2004, 19:43

I recently felt the sting of b.net greed yesterday, losing my beloved Oculus to some guy (cough) *tocker (cough) who pretended to trade me a Tal Rasha's Adjudication. I was damned despondent, but some truly stand up guys at the Amazon Basin cheered me up and prevented me from quitting in anger and despair.

My advice to you: Make some friends that frequent the forums that you like. Amazon Basin is one. The people here seem like great people too, tho I have yet to play with anyone here. If anyone is interested, look me up at *Original_Dyre.

-J.H.

P.S. Drown your sorrows in a Guinness. :drink: Works for me. :drink:

vic86

16-04-2004, 20:09

Havn't looked through thread for similar response so forgive me if this is said already.

a tip for all of u that is in need of good ways 2 mule, join games called act2 normal, act 2 normal, act2, act 2 or similar (works w most acts but in my experience act2 is most played). Since most games are normal u often dont have to add "normal" after game name.

Enter game, go act1 without allying anyone, drop what u need 2 mule in a corner, leave, switch to mule and come back.
allways check that at least 2-4 persons is in game and are playing otherwise they might leave and u lose ur stuff.

look out for games filling up fast. might get full and u stand there tryin 2 get in waiting for someone 2 leave (especially in act2 since its the act u actually have 2 spend most time in).

Hope this helped someone new. or old btw ;D

edit: also I have been screwed a long time ago by the rattle scam. lost me a azurewrath on that one ;(. Anyway plz dont trade online. for ur own good use etf's trading forums. all people there (or at least 95%) are honest and we drop-trade. U will prolly not get scammed getin to little for ur trades people often know the value of items and if they dont they ask or u discuss a deal friendly, without flaming.

Tanatus

16-04-2004, 21:16

SoCal44

16-04-2004, 21:33

Last night a guy had a thread who needed sigons shelter (armor). I joined and told him I had it, but was curretly wearing it. He went on about how he didnt have much, but I told him to give me a couple of hours to level up to my next armor and I'd give it to him. Free, no cost, just wait a bit. Wouldnt do it. Couldnt belive it, just had to whisper me and he'd get what he wanted for free.

Ironic thing is I killed NM Andy and got another sig armor, even saved it for him - but never got a message.

Not only just greed, but instant greed. Baffeled me.

memememe173

16-04-2004, 21:48

people have always sucked, but with the Internet and other mass medias, the suckitude of the general populus is just being realized to the less pessimistic/realistic (as in Realist, not people who don't understand reality) people

jbeast

16-04-2004, 22:26

This isn't anything new. People are complete retards on BNet. Obviously not all, but a huge majority are pathetic. For instance the other day I was doing a trade with some guy and getting rid of some of my left over 175 poison charms. So I'm on my currency mule and I have no space to be able to move my charms from my stash into my person as I also had gear there from other trades. I decided I'll drop my roughly 8 Ko/Ith runes off by Charsi. I didn't expect they'd be something someone would grab but meh. So anyway he realizes I dropped em, runs up, snags and types "rofl, dumb noob" and leaves. Obviously I wouldn't be dumb enough to drop an Enigma, but these are such pathetically easy runes to find or trade for and this moron yanks em and leaves. (lvl 89 Barb using Eth BoTD CB)

Don't care I lost those garbage runes, but annoyed at how sad BNet is. Tis why I love these forums.

Self mule, or even post a message here if you need to mule. There are always honest people here that will be willing to lend you a hand. Hope it works out for you.

Peace

Stormcryer

16-04-2004, 22:48

People....

Not to sound like a grandfather here but remember the b.net demographics.....

Predominently male, mostly young teens, and fairly immature.

I'm quire sure that if you were able to line up all the RL pictures of the majority of the scammers, you would behold a sea of pimply faced youths who, empowered by totaly annonimity, act out their childish bully/hustler fantasies.

NOW HOLD ON....before all you decent younger folks yell at the old man that eh is generalizing and being aged biased, look at the behavior, language, and attitude of these individuals and tell me they're 25 + working stiff/college students.

"Thats ***....."
"You're ***...."
"you char is so weak is must be ***...."
"Gimme free stuff Please pleaseplease"
"I need free stuff....."

Does this sound like a typical adult's (young or old) vocabulary?????

I have met many younger players whom I have felt obligated to either coach, rush, help, etc....because of the mature behavior and attitude. The others, well, let's just say that I've more patience than most, and still help them, but not to same extend.

Just remember who is on the other end of the network......usually a kid, and usually too imature to care abiout what they're doing.

AS to teh Scammers.....I have never been scammed in 2 years of playing/trading. (And I used the channels all the time). I just take my time. If I'm setting up for a trade with someone I don't know, I'll mule over my trading item on to a nekkid mule place it in my stash , and then enter the trading game. If the scammer is using a drop hack, etc...I loose nothing as I have nothing on my avatar. Once the other has confirmed that he has the item we agreed on (by showing it to me in the rade window), I go to my stash, pick up the item(s) and immedeately initiate a trade window. I NEVER hit the check box until I have verified the trade item and if he so much as picks up the item in the trading window I close out teh trading window. If he asks me to hit the trade buton first, I refuse and ask him to hit the button.

If he refuses, I close the trade window and tell him thanks but no thanks, and that I'm leaving the game. You'd be surprised how many yell "WAIT" and open the trade window again and finish the trade on MY terms. The ones that don't .....well lets just say that I'm 40 years old, very patience, and there is not a deal or item swap that I won;t walk away from. I can always find the item, or find an honest trader ...I've got patience on my side.

As to muling, I have 2 comps and 2 keys, so I only mule in private games. If I give something to someone it's a gift. I won't lend an item to someone. I'
ll give it to them. If they give it back to me, that's great, we remain friends. If they don't give it back to me, we're still friends as I did not loan it, I GAVE it away. It also means I don;t spent time, frustration, and anger trying to get back teh loaned item. Life's too short to waste any time over such nonsense.

Cheers!
Storm

vic86

16-04-2004, 22:53

Few rules for x-fer then you using for it public games
What NOT to do
a) do not ever drop any items near stashes
b) do not ever drop any items by high-traffic NPC (smith, hireling ect)
c) do not ever drop any items in act 1 specially in coners of camp - its first place where any volture will check for freebee
d) do not drop any items in act 4
e) do not drop any items by/near ANY waypoints
f) do not drop any items by open space
In past (lol noone will disclose current favorite drop spots...) my favorite drop points where Act2 tavern with Atma farest coner of small room inside building. Alternative place was same act Palace lvl 1

u dont have to b this cautious.. I always drop in act1 and never get ripped. maybe cos Im so fast switching mules. And yes ofcourse u dont drop near IPC or wellvisited areas (stash, way-out-of-town, wps etc..) and since most mules prolly never reach beyond act1 its always easier to take a slight risk and dont level them, having 2 mule in act1. ofcourse u wont mule expensive items in this way.. then u cr8 game and stay 10 min or make friend help.

memememe173

16-04-2004, 23:14

bard

17-04-2004, 00:37

Don't lose heart with bnet though. There are still some great ppl out there. I started an assassin (quite a while ago) and several ppl joined my name, one of them suddenly dropped 10,000 gold for me to help me get started and then helped me clear dens in Act1 and waited for me to pick up all the magic items. Okay, he had great stuff already but it made me feel good and I really appreciated the help and support when getting started.

Bob Dole

17-04-2004, 00:52

dude.....if u want some help or some free cheap items just msg me (only the guy that created this post) dont get put off the game just cos some ****** ruined it. most of the ppl that call u noob for drop tradin are noobs themselves, i have one in mind (my cousin). Just chill its only a game not like it matters.

whisper hc-briggs (europe realm.ladder)

Jackson

17-04-2004, 02:15

I don't really see why people would xfer in pubby games =S

There's just so many more risks than xfering alone./

Jpech01

17-04-2004, 02:24

If you transfer, drop your items somewhere else where he doesn't know. Also EVERYONE HAS BEEN SCAMMED AND EVERYONE FELT LIKE YOU DO AFTER THEY GOT SCAMMED. YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE JERKS WHO WE JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH.

Meng_lin

17-04-2004, 06:04

i useually join some games called act on here, just go to another act, teleport as far away as possible (me use enigma), and drop the item, since those games last pretty long, i wouldnt worry any one taking it or teh game disapear

Stormcryer

17-04-2004, 06:07

dude, if you go into a mall you'll hear *** used derrogatorly...my friends all use it, even the ones you wouldn't expect to...hell, I've used it occassionally, just from hearing it so much...

people in general arn't nice...if they can get an advantage (especially with out directly hurting some one (going 10 over the speed limit or duping) 99% of people will do it...trying to put yourself on a moral high ground because you don't dupe, for most people is utter ********

"dude"
I'm hoping you're not referring to me. I don't "put myself on a moral high ground" my persoanl ethics and sense of moral responsibility do. I was not trying to slag today's youth. (by your reference I'll make teh assumption that you are yourself a youth....most adults don't "hang out" in malls calling people *** and those that do too immature to be called adults)

The attitudes of most youth in most generations has not changed much. When I was younger, I was much the same as any youth. If I could "get away with something" I at least tried it and didn't think twice of the consequences of my actions mostly becasue when one is young those consequences are never really apparent. That was in a non virtual world.

In today's virtual world with almost complete anonimity, the temptaion is far more, and the almost nil prospect of being held accountable for one's actions make for an environment of temptation that is beyond even the best of us at times.

What I was trying to get at, and obviously didn't get it right, is that I hold the b.net folks (those who scam. beg for freebies, hack , and dupe) to a large extent to be young, relatively inexperienced and more concerned with what they CAN do, and not what they "SHOULD" do. They are generally selfish, unappethetic, and have a serious drought of ethics.

Relating speeding to scamming/duping is like relating jay walking to grand theft. While most would admit that failing to use a cross walk is slightly irresponsible, it doesn't not compare to the damage does to an innocent third party when their person and/or property is violated.

This is the moral difference, many youth (from all generations) have failed to see, but thre is good news. Most of those youth come to realize this as they grow older, wiser, and to some extent morally responsible for their actions.

If you need proof, dude, open a posting asking folks their age on this forum, and in the alt.games.diablo forums. Then ask the same question on the scammer sites, and b.net channels. You'll see what I mean.

BTW, just to throw this ne out there....why do you think that most of us refer to many of these types as "twerps, and "script kiddies"

Storm

To all.. I appologize for this one. My intent was to reassure Over-dosed that not all on b.net were scammers, and that he shoud take the scammers actions with a grain of salt, and consider the age of average player. Most are too young to fully understand the consquences of their actions, and the rest just don't care.

Storm

memememe173

17-04-2004, 06:50

"dude"
I'm hoping you're not referring to me. I don't "put myself on a moral high ground" my persoanl ethics and sense of moral responsibility do. I was not trying to slag today's youth. (by your reference I'll make teh assumption that you are yourself a youth....most adults don't "hang out" in malls calling people *** and those that do too immature to be called adults)I was not directly referring to you and no you didn't, I read too much into some of your comments. Yes I am a youth (16), and on the whole, a very good specimen in regards to morals/ethics/sense of responsability. No, most likely
a 25 year-old will not beg for free stuff, but in the use of *** or ****** in derrogitory fashion, I do belive you are wrong. I don't mean a conscous effort, simply instead of saying "that sucks," "that's ***" has become as much if not more often used, and I doubt a person would stop saying it just because they left high school.

The attitudes of most youth in most generations has not changed much. When I was younger, I was much the same as any youth. If I could "get away with something" I at least tried it and didn't think twice of the consequences of my actions mostly becasue when one is young those consequences are never really apparent. That was in a non virtual world.yes, I'll agree.

In today's virtual world with almost complete anonimity, the temptaion is far more, and the almost nil prospect of being held accountable for one's actions make for an environment of temptation that is beyond even the best of us at times.as I also said.

What I was trying to get at, and obviously didn't get it right, is that I hold the b.net folks (those who scam. beg for freebies, hack , and dupe) to a large extent to be young, relatively inexperienced and more concerned with what they CAN do, and not what they "SHOULD" do. They are generally selfish, unappethetic, and have a serious drought of ethics. I think we both had something to do, the blame is shared. Yes, though some of those people do/can take a very different approach on "real life" (I'm not endorsing being "good" only in person though)

Relating speeding to scamming/duping is like relating jay walking to grand theft. While most would admit that failing to use a cross walk is slightly irresponsible, it doesn't not compare to the damage does to an innocent third party when their person and/or property is violated.I'm going to have to disagree with you there parly. For scamming yes, and I hope I didn't combine the two in my post. But for duping, the damage is very easy to ignore to those who wish to, while stealing, the damage should be obvious to even a master theif.

This is the moral difference, many youth (from all generations) have failed to see, but thre is good news. Most of those youth come to realize this as they grow older, wiser, and to some extent morally responsible for their actions. we can only hope...

If you need proof, dude, open a posting asking folks their age on this forum, and in the alt.games.diablo forums. Then ask the same question on the scammer sites, and b.net channels. You'll see what I mean.
You don't need to convince me, I have a habit of falling into a pessimist/realist mode, due to circustances in my life, when I can sometimes read things that arn't there and lash out. The only things I was trying to say (which I did quit poorly) was that *** is flooding of language unfortunatly, that older people can be [just as or more of] assholes then kids, and that I felt you de-humanized acts such as duping, begging and scamming.

On the first one I feel that we both could have expressed that better, the second one I am in error, and the third one I feel depends on your mindset at the time of reading.

I'd like to apologize for the tone of my post. I do not feel I represented myself fairly, nor did I treat you with respect. I hope you will except my apology, as I am clearly in error

savvyguy

17-04-2004, 07:15

People....

Not to sound like a grandfather here but remember the b.net demographics.....

Cheers!
Storm

Storm, I appreciate your attitude, great post. I also liked your archmage guide very much. What server do you play on?

Stormcryer

17-04-2004, 18:34

I'd like to apologize for the tone of my post. I do not feel I represented myself fairly, nor did I treat you with respect. I hope you will except my apology, as I am clearly in error

No appology needed.

After re-reading my original post and the subsequent conversation, I can see how my original post may have sounded slightly....shall we say arrogant....one of the failings that some of us older creatures can fall into. (It's not just the young who need to police themselves, their attitudes. speech an behaviors)

It was late when I posted and I was probably a little more miffed than I should have been. (Might have something to do with the fact that my team got thier asses handed them to them in the Hockey quarter finals (oops just let the cat out of the bag there eh..Yup I'm Canadian and a Ottawa fan to boot)

I'd like to stress that on the majority, the young folks I have met via my Diablo playing addiction, have been very good people. The one's who decide to fall into the trap of scamming, taunting, and general immature behaviour, I simply take with a grain of salt, knowing that in the end it is themselves that they cheat by never really getting the same satsifaction from truly mastering the game on their own using ethical methods.

It's like cheatng on a test or exam. Sure the mark is recorded, but the knowledde isn't necessarily gained. One day down the raod, when shaving, there will surface that, "Could I have done that on my own?" question. The most unfortunate part is that that particular road has been traversed, and cannot be traveled again, so all the person is left with is a hollow victory, and haunting question.

That what these kids, an adults for that matter, will take away from their actions.

I know it's just a game. It's not real life. But often times many of the ethics that we develop up as youths, are acquired when interacting with our peers outside of the home and office and classroom. Sometimes I look at the behavior that the annonimity of the internet has fostered and can only hope that the cheaters, and scammers realize the difference between "on-line" and "RL" otherwise the fear is that this conprimising of their on-line morals and ethics will show up in their real world life.

Not a pleasant thought.

But enough of the "old man' lecturing...look me up if you're on Useast Ladder... it would be a pleasure kicking some hellspawn butts with you.

Storm

Stormcryer

17-04-2004, 18:38

Storm, I appreciate your attitude, great post. I also liked your archmage guide very much. What server do you play on?

Useast Ladder Work's been a bit of a hassle lately and it's cutting into my Diablo time (gotto hate it when that happens) but I try to get on a least a couple nights a week...usually during on the weekends.

I'll keep an eye out..

Cheers!

Storm

memememe173

17-04-2004, 19:30

I'm Canadian too...I have a conflict of intrest in that series...Belfour was born in the same town I was, but he's playing for the Leafs (pfft!) I wish the Jets were still active...

SaVe_ExIt_PlZ

18-04-2004, 00:31

undefined I neva trust ne1 not even my best friend that plays and we go to school togather i just go in a game hit the windows botton come read a post or 2 here for bout 5 or so minuetes come back drop the stuff and go get it :winner:

Brother_Maynard

18-04-2004, 07:27

i haven't been scammed yet, but that' s mainly because i pay attention when i'm trading. i always have my cursor over the cancel trade button in case it doesn't feel right or if they try to switch gear. i've had ppl switch up stuff quite a bit, i just cancel and insult them for being so pathetic.

as for xferring i have lost a couple items due to impetience, but since i found this site i just read or post while i wait... coincidently this is what i'm doing as i post right now....

i haven't gotten a chance to game with anyone from here (at least that i know of) but i have made some trades and it worked great. if anyone wants to play lemme know. uswest nl hatred247 or hatred365

rpgforums is teh coolist.....

Stormcryer

18-04-2004, 07:40

I'm Canadian too...I have a conflict of intrest in that series...Belfour was born in the same town I was, but he's playing for the Leafs (pfft!) I wish the Jets were still active...

I know the feeling.. we almost lost the Sens last year because we're atill a small market team. As to "The Eagle". well lets just say that if we had em in Ottawa, it would have been a four game series with the Laffs playing golf today. Still can;t belive that guy is 39 and can still breakdance in the net. IT AIN'T NATRUAL

Storm

mmmiclex

19-04-2004, 06:24

[QUOTE=Stormcryer]"dude"
I'm hoping you're not referring to me. I don't "put myself on a moral high ground" my persoanl ethics and sense of moral responsibility do. I was not trying to slag today's youth. (by your reference I'll make teh assumption that you are yourself a youth....most adults don't "hang out" in malls calling people *** and those that do too immature to be called adults)

As much as i agree with your reply to whoever.... it was.... I think this is a game and only a game... it has nothing to do with the real world.. only depends on each individuals mood as to how rude or nice he (or in my case )she will be....the original guy generalized but umm i think that is all you can do on a game this size.... and nothing else should be said about young ppl or stupidity or rudness.... you just need to get over it and question whether or not YOU can handle the tension or frustration of the game... lol I dont mean to be rude, just dont think you're input on the subject will help or get through to many ppl... seeing how its a game and all...but i happen to b a mature player as well as a young adult and would be happy to discuss this further. AND lol i have never taken or doen anythin gto anyone without giving back to them somehow.... lol :wave:

Stormcryer

19-04-2004, 08:44

Actually I don't have any tension or frustration with the game, or the players. (Nor was I beating up on young people.) What I was alluding to was the fact that a vitrual area like b.net and vitrualt anonimity combine to, in some cases, (both young and old alike) can bring out the worst in some people and to take their actions with a grain of salt.

The game itself has nothing to do with RL. Some of the behavior learned from the game, in the case of some very young (pre-teen for example) can become habit forming, and then the possibility of it encroaching in RL IS possible.
I also don't think it will "get through" to many people. It was intended to help the original poster and some of the follow up osters try to understand why some of these folks do what they do. Nothing more...

ioupain

19-04-2004, 14:25

Do you know what the funniest thing is?

If the people that ask for freebies and other things just played the game for half the time that they were whining or duping or whatever it is that they do - they would probably find some really good things and they would also get the satisfaction of knowing that they gained them on their own merit. This is far more rewarding and i feel that it is because of this that i am hooked - if i had cheated someone out of my favourite items at the moment then they wouldn't be my most prized items anymore. as for the language that people use on bnet, i am pretty sure that in the real world they would not have the guts to use them on the same people because they won't have anything to hide behind (computer,high level characters etc). And like Storm said - take everything with a pinch of salt (or more precisely a giant salt lick) because those people may not turn out so great and they probably aren't important.

memememe173

19-04-2004, 18:42

As much as i agree with your reply to whoever.... it was.... I think this is a game and only a game... it has nothing to do with the real world.. only depends on each individuals mood as to how rude or nice he (or in my case )she will be....the original guy generalized but umm i think that is all you can do on a game this size.... and nothing else should be said about young ppl or stupidity or rudness.... you just need to get over it and question whether or not YOU can handle the tension or frustration of the game... lol I dont mean to be rude, just dont think you're input on the subject will help or get through to many ppl... seeing how its a game and all...but i happen to b a mature player as well as a young adult and would be happy to discuss this further. AND lol i have never taken or doen anythin gto anyone without giving back to them somehow.... lol :wave:
unfortunatly, too many youths can't distinguish between RL and D2...when confronted with the bad in people you have to options...become a agnst filled people=**** type, or hope that somehow they realize what they're doing is wrong and fix it...

people would still be the same without video games, the facelessness of them just allows them to let it out

kuza

19-04-2004, 19:16

lol Storm, are you in Ottawa too?? Did you see the game last night?? We'll be watching a few play off games at the pub on elgin I think it's Maclearins or O'connors. I forget the name but it's near Eligin and Summerset. With all the pool tables. We were there for the first game.

Ottawa rocks!

Stormcryer

20-04-2004, 00:39

JustGotOwned

20-04-2004, 00:57

I sure did catch the game last night and will be glued to the tube fo thr final in Toronto to orrow night. Not sute whcih tube, but one I find one that I like, it'll be me, a beer, and the Sens.

Not too sute if my nerves can take another game like last night, but if imean a few frazzled nerves to see the boys in red put the Leafs away, then so be it.

Sorry Storm I'm a Bruins fan and would delight in seeing A. The Bruins finally get there act together and beat the damn Canadiens and B. Seeing the Senators lose. Hockey kicks A$$, the rivalries formed in hockey and D2 surpass even the Red Sox and Yankees :flip:

Stormcryer

20-04-2004, 01:13

That wouldn't be because of the Bruins abysmal reacord against the Mighty Sens could it? :scratch:

JustGotOwned

20-04-2004, 13:59

That wouldn't be because of the Bruins abysmal reacord against the Mighty Sens could it? :scratch:

To bad it's not gonna happen since they lost AGAIN, grrrrr hwo could they lose to the Canadiens?!?! I mean really come on now :rant:

Stormcryer

20-04-2004, 14:36

It's one of those seasons of upsets. First Jersey, then Boston. Kind of hoping the trend continues... seeing how Ottawa is 'considered' the underdog for tonites game.

I watched the game last night and thought that Boston was going to take it. They owned Montreal in the physical
side of the game. Jut looked like Theadore had one of those games.

memememe173

20-04-2004, 18:30

yay Flames :thumbsup: montreal is canadian so I'll take it, and tonights game revolves around if the Leafs can give Belfour any support...if they pull their heads out of the asses Belfour can take them to the cup...

kuza

20-04-2004, 18:57

I dont' like to support any team that only wins because of the goalie.

the_leaf

21-04-2004, 04:21

i just have been recently ruhsimg ppl in nm. I feel like many of those jerks out there feel like they can get to meph, leave, and then join pub games to get to baal. This has happend to me twice. id say the worst was when i was been rushed and some dude got the rune (Um, damn) and said he had to go get his zon to deal with iron madien. never came back. Pissed the hell out of me. so after that i felt wat other ppl feel, and when i couldnt finish a rush (got to hellforge) i said ill b on later to finih it. Got on, and he said he got rushed by a friend. But, he thatnked me for honesty. Some ppl out there r realy nice, even if they lend u or give u some really good ****. But i also had my wizspike and durials shell scammed when he switched skullders for a supieor splint mail :( But i finally got it and am almost complete with mf sorc YES! :)

the_leaf

21-04-2004, 04:23

sry about repost. wouldnt lert me edit. FYI, im a 15 year old (1 year til car :yep: )male in CA. so dont think all young ppl r ******

Stormcryer

21-04-2004, 06:18

Most young ppl are cool....at least they're not set in their ways that they'll support a bunch of diving ducks like the Ottawa Senators. :hanky: WAHHHH my boys got their collective backsides handed to them tonite.

This really sucks as now I have to support Calgary (not a bad choice) Montreal (also not a bad choice) and uhghhh TO, Think I'd rather crawl through broken glass and rusty nail before I do that) :drink: :drink: :drink:

kuza

21-04-2004, 17:13

:rant: ****ing TO and thier damn goalie

GO HABS GO :winner:

offline5555

21-04-2004, 22:00

ok..... i am an old player from 1.09 who quitted and came back in the 1.10 days. Though I have not read the whole post i would like to give my 2 cents here.

People who play in battle.net are mostly teenagers, from 13-18, during the high school times. They are still kids, who are inexperienced in the real world, where morals are not important to them. However, I made a decent friendship during the 1.09 days, whom i xfer uber items, etheral cruel elite claw, jeweler's archon of the whale, trap charms with 40+ life, and my friend did not take anything ever, nor did i take any of his etheral cruel swords either. Anyone who played 1.09 knows how much those items are worth, and even a richass duper would be TEMPTED to steal. What i wanted to point out is, there are still true friendship and people with morals. and yes, i would dupe if i know how, that i admit, but i will not steal a "friend" stuff and i am sure i am not the only one. People do have conscience and integrity.

By the way, to the person who got his things stolen, i think you learned your lesson in a hard way. A simple solution is to xfer with a REAL LIFE FRIEND, if you find it hard to make real friends in the virtual world. Your real life "friend" know he is screwed if he ****s with you.

the_leaf

22-04-2004, 06:56

i jsut ahd to ask this. does ne1 here play on USWest nonladder? i need alot more ppl to play games with and to xfer, and also jsut to have more fun. thx

mattyjizm

26-04-2004, 01:13

bronzdragon5545

26-04-2004, 07:51

Hi all. I'm new the froum and fairly new to B.net too. After reading this thread I decided that I would try to do something about it. I would like to organize a group of people that act as safe traders on Battlenet. We can organize times that people can log into a game we host and drop items off safely. I have a few ideas about how to do this and I would need voulenteers to do different realms (currently I'm only US East). If anyone is interested, thinks the idea is good/stoopid or whatnot drop me an email at it@smc.ac.nz.

Matty G

i dont c how that will work im sure 90% of the ppl that read that thought hey free items i did im not going to deny it.

well about 2 days ago my friend was x-fering stuff with me i had never met him b4 in life but new him for a long time in the game and he was tranzfering his intire acount over to make room for more guys and what not well when hes finished he says that a +3 to fire skill ammy is missing and thats not worth crap compared to the other stuff we where x-fering so he just starts *****in and im tellin him i didnt take it. well about a hour after this my other 3 friends start talk about jacking his account for being a *** and im like WTF cuz i thought i new these guys and here there are jacking a friends acount for miss placing sumthin then blaming me? well long story short i tell him to change his pass and latter he finds his ammy and all 5 of us arnt talkin to each other cuz now theres no trust and all that year of friendship lost over a stupid ammy? well im still pissed about it and thinkin a 1/4 of his account could pay for my cold sorc im startin but im the bigger man now i guess. so dont trust any1 tell u no them in real life and dont x-fer +3 skill ammys there bad luck. sry it tolk so long to say that but no1 is going to read it anyways

and the last thing is clanx IS REBORN yes me and my 6 friends from high school are all going to start agian soon so every1 watch it, it will be away for then to all get there stuff back but it will happen and there playin open to test what biulds they want there most still goin with the zon cus there 09 crazy