Tiger Strike + BotD vs. WW Barbs?

[Speederländer]

I'm curious if a high damage BotD weapon (say a zerker axe) on an assassin combined with TS could be a workable attack vs. WW barbs. You wouldn't have the benefit of CM but high level TS plus a decent finishing move should provide reasonable AR against all but the highest defense barbs.

Just curious if anyone has messed with this idea. It seems that the damage would be substantial with high level TS.

[Lunatic]

I wouldn't call like 6 to 7k AR (tops) alot. Then there's the fact you're already dead by the time you have 3 TS charges out. Combine this with the fact that WW is uninteruptable and you have yourself an even harder time winning against a barb then sins already have.

ps.
Trappers have an easier time with barbs , but a good barb will still eat trappers alive.

[Speederländer]

I wouldn't call like 6 to 7k AR (tops) alot. Then there's the fact you're already dead by the time you have 3 TS charges out. Combine this with the fact that WW is uninteruptable and you have yourself an even harder time winning against a barb then sins already have.

ps.
Trappers have an easier time with barbs , but a good barb will still eat trappers alive.

Level 20 TS plus level 20 talon along with 7 to 17 plus skills can result in over 1100% to AR. AR in excess of 12 or 13K should be readily attainable. If you are using a storm, you already have to pump dex into the 180+ range which also helps AR. With a raven you pump AR as well. You can always wear angelics if needed but I don't think they would be.

With max block, 2K+ life, and max PDR you should be a able to get a full 3 charges out. My trapper takes multiple hits from BotD WW barbs, I would think an MA build along these lines could also take the abuse long enough to deliver the damage.

And actually, unless the barb is outfitted with full-on absorb, my trapper does quite well. I've played trappers since early in 1.09. I rarely lose to barbs unless they are very well played or they have loads of fire absorb. Lvl 42 WoF kills rather quickly. I'm interested in having an alternative to the absorb/BotD barbs that I occasionally run up against on the ladder.

[C-Beat]

TS slvl 37: 267% ar bonus
DTalon slvl 37: 920% ar bonus.

They do not stack when using TS you know ;)

DTalon would have good ar, over 10k. but TS will not.

C-Beat

[Speederländer]

TS slvl 37: 267% ar bonus
DTalon slvl 37: 920% ar bonus.

They do not stack when using TS you know ;)

DTalon would have good ar, over 10k. but TS will not.

C-Beat

A swing and a miss on TS still gets a charge up and that's all that matters. It's the finishing move that needs to hit and deliver the charge up. I'm still looking at nearly a 1000% ar bonus. The point of this is not to argue AR though. It's to see whether people think there is any feasibility in trying it.

[Zero-unit]

Honestly i think this is a futile attempt. Your Assassin would be like grass and the Barbarian would be like the lawn mower. Only real way Assassins can fight WW IMO is either WW back or Trap.

Dr@kE~

[C-Beat]

You wont get the charge up of you miss your target. The only way to charge up is to hit the target 3 times....not easy with low ar....

C-Beat

[Jerkazoid]

You wont get the charge up of you miss your target. The only way to charge up is to hit the target 3 times....not easy with low ar....

C-Beat

yes, u must break through the defence rating on other players to count for a charge,

u can try a Dflight technique.. fly when u think the barb is almost done with his ww. then get a swing. try not to get hit, walk outta the way of his next ww. fly, swing.

ud need to hope u time the flight well, u dont want the charge to release from DF

[Lunatic]

A swing and a miss on TS still gets a charge up and that's all that matters. It's the finishing move that needs to hit and deliver the charge up. I'm still looking at nearly a 1000% ar bonus. The point of this is not to argue AR though. It's to see whether people think there is any feasibility in trying it.
Tell me how it's possible to get over 1000% AR when using TS then? You don't get any bonus from CM , since you're not using a claw. So that isn't an AR source.

TS slvl 37: 267% ar bonus. That's it. If you have a base AR or 2000 you still only have 7340. And getting 2k base AR is quite hard. 200 dex = 800 AR , perfect raven = 250 AR. That's 1050 AR. That leaves you with another 950 base AR to get.