What secondary attack for Trapasin?

[RaverLV]

Hi all!

I'm new to assassin, and I want to build a Lightening trapasin. The problem is that most guides advise Fire Blast as a secondary attack for LI. Personally I think that throwing potions around looks kind of silly, so I wanted to know about other variants of attack for her.

Currently I can think of:
1)FB - as I said, doesn't look very handy and fun to me.
2)SM - on paper SM looks like an awsome tank. Will SM with help of DS be able to kill all LI? If "yes", max it or not?
3)BF - looks good, but too much problems with AR.
4)Anything from Martial tree IMHO would require too much sacrifice from traps tree.
5)Any other variants?

Thanx in advance!

[patheticloser]

Reasons for fire blast:

1) Gets a synergy from every fire and lightning trap in the trap tree.
2) You can have at most 5 traps out at a time (correct me if I am wrong, which I hope I am) so you can lay 5 traps and then FB away.

[RaverLV]

Reasons for fire blast:

1) Gets a synergy from every fire and lightning trap in the trap tree.
2) You can have at most 5 traps out at a time (correct me if I am wrong, which I hope I am) so you can lay 5 traps and then FB away.

Yes, I know about efectiveness of FB, but I don't feel good using it. For example, recently I've played Sorceress alot, and I know about HUGE meteor damage, but I don't use it, because I don't like it. I like hydras better, despite lower damage and slower killing speed. The same feelings I have about FB, so I wanted to know alternatives.

[Frankeinstein]

Its your choice on what you like to use on your build. The other traps in tree like DS get an extra shot per 3 lvls of fire blast. at lvl 20 thats almost 7 extra shots per trap layed down thats almost 35 extra shots for 5 traps. thats like laying down 12 DS traps :drool:

Now you add some + skill items & get to lvl 30... + all the damage bonus form other synergies ... FB is not a skill to be overlooked.

I have not built a pure trapper yet, I'v been playing w/ a BFsin for the last couple months.

I have a +3trap/+3LS claw I am planning to build around for starters. I belive I could build a trapper in the mid lvl 40's.

Assy's are much more fun in 1.10 :winner:

[RaverLV]

Thanx Frankeinstein! Good point about FB helping out main skills. Nice claw you got there! :thumbsup:

[Atticus]

generally you want to stick with fireblast, but for certain places, like doing baal's minions, shock web does wonders. both are pretty good. maxed shock web covers a HUGE area, and does around 3.3k (for me anyway, it's level 38), and rips through most of the minions quite fast. i put fireblast to use in the pits, to knock off those pesky light immune archers.

[Frankeinstein]

generally you want to stick with fireblast, but for certain places, like doing baal's minions, shock web does wonders. both are pretty good. maxed shock web covers a HUGE area, and does around 3.3k (for me anyway, it's level 38), and rips through most of the minions quite fast. i put fireblast to use in the pits, to knock off those pesky light immune archers.


mind sharing wut you used to get to lvl 38? Highest skill I ever had was in 1.09
PS at lvl 36

[BIGeyedBUG]

generally you want to stick with fireblast, but for certain places, like doing baal's minions, shock web does wonders. both are pretty good. maxed shock web covers a HUGE area, and does around 3.3k (for me anyway, it's level 38), and rips through most of the minions quite fast. i put fireblast to use in the pits, to knock off those pesky light immune archers.

Are you talking about the same Shock Web? I don't want to be insulting, but I've never, NEVER, NEVER heard anybody praise Shlock Web. Assuming you've got a maxxed LS, it should be doing 2-3x as much damage per shot. With 10 shots. And piercing. And no 25 frame NextDelay.

Either a joke, or pure lunacy as far as I can tell. I'd love to be wrong, because it is a cool skill in concept.

[lextalionis]

Are you talking about the same Shock Web? I don't want to be insulting, but I've never, NEVER, NEVER heard anybody praise Shlock Web. Assuming you've got a maxxed LS, it should be doing 2-3x as much damage per shot. With 10 shots. And piercing. And no 25 frame NextDelay.

Either a joke, or pure lunacy as far as I can tell. I'd love to be wrong, because it is a cool skill in concept.

I think you could do pretty well with a one point BF. You could put points in CM, instead of FB. This will help a bit with AR and Damage. One way around it would also be weapon switch.

Now, I don't know how strong your claws are, but you can have a two socket claw with +3 LS. You can throw STRENGTH Runeword in it for 25% CB. That and Goblin Toes can get you to 50% CB. You can probably get another 10% from BLOOD Gloves. -- That's 60% CB. Not bad for BF. You can also max Venom for more damage. You might read the BF threads, and or ask some of the people in there for more advice. OW and PHM are enormously important.

[Atticus]

Let's see, shako, enigma, an soj, maras, HoTo, 6 trap charms, anni, +1 from cta... +2+2+1+2+3+6+1+1. =+18. i could use ten trap charms for +22, but i like to have my cube/scrolls and space to pick stuff up. Level 38 shock web does 1-3336/sec.

[Uzziah]

The reason FB is a choosen skill for the trapper has to do with the added synergizes that it gives. Ie the +6 shots to Death Sentry +6 missles to Shock Web. And with it being able to produce 1000+ damage fairly easily it is a viable skill.

For a pure trapper a point in blade fury really helps out, yes it suffers horribly from lack of AR but you can use eth runes or ITD and not even need to worry about it. The blade fury skill can use % to cast on striking so CB and DS as well as static from cressent moon can make blade fury a viable main skill not secondary skill so its a great option.

[Phresh]

While they are stunlocked use DF and use a martial attack

[Madmartagan2002]

Well- about the only time I use FB is agaist Light Immunes- Personally I think Shock Web looks cool for use on non-light immunes.

If you really don't want to use FB... The only real alternative I see is Mind Blast. MB like crazy and set the monsters to fighting each other. This is how I handle Light immune packs- but I usually use FB to speed the killing up. However, I bet you could kill them using only MB and a merc + SM. It'll just take forever.