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bmh yak 18
13-04-2004, 05:26
This guy is a non-ladder killa. he's lvl 85 right now...
skills:
20 mace mastery
20 frenzy
20 battle orders
20 shout
1 iron skin, increase speed, inc. stamina, nat resists
(still have something like 10 skills)
stats:
225 str with items
135 dex with items
330 vit with items
base energy
(still have 50 stats)
Items:
dual schaffers (one with sheal other with 40 ed/7% FHR jewel (legit))
dual echoing javs on switch
arreats (i am looking for a 10+ resists/15 ias jewel, good choice?)
wirefleece enigma
crappy raven
3% ll ring with + str, + dex, + energy, + resists
crafted gloves: 20 ias, 3% ll, 10% CB, + 12 dex, some specfic resist
gore riders
cat's eye ammy
14/40 verdungos
charms:
frw/resist (all are specific resists not all resists)
+5 all resist SCs
what else should i get?
my life is huge i have lvl 31 warcries with my echoing javs so with BO i have 3.7K life...
My main problems:
1) not enough damage, my damage with frenzy is about 1.3K-3K with both
2) MOST SERIOUS: not enough attack rating, i'm thinking about 2 solutions
a. angelic rings + ammy
b. x2 perfect AR Ravens and some frw/AR SCs
3) not quite fast enough yet (hopefully ias in arreats will help), but what else?
4) kinda low resists, lightning is my only perfect resist, 2 are in the teens (poison and fire) and cold in like 41
5) any other problems you see
any and all feedback is welcome. thank you for looking.... :howdy:
donvitotm
13-04-2004, 06:49
Sounds good, but I think you should have put more points into double swing and taunt That would have been a good idea. Each point in those skills give an extra 8% damage to frenzy...
Ash Housewares
14-04-2004, 00:27
I have a virtually identical barb held over from .09
how is your AR? my is 8k-9k I don't recall, its solid but not fantastic
my guy lacks versatility and gets mobbed a bit too easily since he doesn't use enigma, but he does use atma's scarab to add to the %chance to cast fun, and it has a small %AR bonus but I don't know how big a difference that makes in losing 25dex from cats eye, I don't think your attack speed is quite as good as mine either, I will have to check, but all in all you probably fare better than mine anyways, he just runs mephisto
btw, awesome avatar
I find I have crappy dmg as well and I do 1950 per hand with Death CLeavers. But, I see you don't use battly cry or warcry. If I get mobed, I hit warcry to stun, then battlecry to give them -58% defense& -30 or something dmg. Then I stun once more and whack the living hell out of them. The battle cry lasts for 20-30 seconds depending on the few points and that lets me keep casting warcry every 2-3 seconds to keep them stunned untill there are only a few monsters left. These are close area cries so you mostly only use them when fighting 5+ monsters. But you have 10 points left, I'd put like 2 into battlecry and the rest into warcry.
bmh yak 18
15-04-2004, 00:22
donvitotm-
good idea... i will consider
Ash Housewares-
i would have to agree with you my avatar is damn sweet =) haha. anyway, as i mentioned in the first post, my attack rating is my main problem, it is brutal-- like 5K. some good suggestions thanks.
kuza-
you are a genius. i totally forgot about those skills. i think i will put some points into those skills.
ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS ARE APPRECIATED.
Ash Housewares
15-04-2004, 00:26
donvitotm-
good idea... i will consider
Ash Housewares-
i would have to agree with you my avatar is damn sweet =) haha. anyway, as i mentioned in the first post, my attack rating is my main problem, it is brutal-- like 5K. some good suggestions thanks.
kuza-
you are a genius. i totally forgot about those skills. i think i will put some points into those skills.
ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS ARE APPRECIATED.
yea, 5k is rather poor, I'm gonna get on in a sec and check on my barb and see what he's at, and it'd be better if he was in a Kings uniform, but I can't complain
:flip:
Ash Housewares
15-04-2004, 00:43
ok, looking at my barb
identical skill placement
stats are
214
49
281
10
he has 1-2.6k dmg with each hammer and 8.2k AR
he's using some junk old AR charms, he isn't using arreats either, which is interesting, he could potentially have even higher AR
rings are raven & an old 105AR 5%AR bonus 5%LL 24%LR ring so more AR there
your speed is up to par with my, most everything surpasses my old barb aside from AR
both my hammers are low ED and shaeled
damage on your guy is the easiest to boost, with synergies, but AR is still troubling, some people swear by taunt as a means of lowering enemy defense for frenzier, but I don't really care for it
my current barb is a lvl77 frenzier on ladder and his damage is terrible with dual lightsabres, but he is extremely durable because he uses warcry as mentioned by kuza it is extremely useful, the combination he uses would help towards your AR problem as well, I haven't used battlecry much since I have ITD but it is a solid skill for the situations he describes
bmh yak 18
16-04-2004, 01:54
i kinda soved my AR problems. now i have 9.45K AR with Atma's ammy a new 20/211 raven and a ll ring with +130 to ar. I'm gunna get some more scs with max dam life and ar....
bmh yak 18
22-04-2004, 05:00
now i have 10.2K frenzy AR. should i try for higher?
also, I got my resists up some:
fire- need like 30 more resist here
cold - like 15 more resists needed here
lit - perfect
poison - perfect
so this char really only desperately needs more damage now. SCs maybe?
also what should i do with the 60 stat points i have left??
what about the 12 skill points?
there were some good ideas earlier but i want to be 10000% sure before i use any of my precious :lol:
alrighty,
DaddyFatSacks
22-04-2004, 05:23
now i have 10.2K frenzy AR. should i try for higher?
also, I got my resists up some:
fire- need like 30 more resist here
cold - like 15 more resists needed here
lit - perfect
poison - perfect
so this char really only desperately needs more damage now. SCs maybe?
also what should i do with the 60 stat points i have left??
what about the 12 skill points?
there were some good ideas earlier but i want to be 10000% sure before i use any of my precious :lol:
alrighty,
I'ts up to your own playing style really, battlecry would really help even with just one point in it, after that it is just a matter of whether you want to do more damage, or if you want your targets to stay still while you whack them over and over again. I personally went with warcry due to the fact the it just keeps you alive longer.
warcry warcry warcry. MY warcray is up to 4 seconds long. In fact my warcry is jsut as high as my battle orders/shout and since the monsters are stunned for 4 seconds, they can't block, defend, attack, move. So I pretty much warcry, battlecry, warcry HACK HACK HACK HACK warcry HACK HACK HACK etc... It's pretty fun. The battle cry lasts for 20 seconds so it's a cast and forget. You'll see the little orange cloud over the ones it got.
urbanterrorist
24-04-2004, 00:12
i had a frenzy barb in east ladder but quit...when i lacked in damage i hired a might merc..but since ur frenzy i dunno if he can catch up with you....just my 2 cents :uhhuh:
bmh yak 18
29-04-2004, 05:29
Warcry seems like an appealing option....
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