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whathappen
11-04-2004, 09:02
I just completed the trang set. Please advice on best builds with this set for PvM and PvP. Thank you!

HarbingersOfSkulls
11-04-2004, 09:09
I just completed the trang set. Please advice on best builds with this set for PvM and PvP. Thank you!

Venomancer or Summoner

HoS

whathappen
11-04-2004, 09:16
Venomancer or Summoner

HoS

I see the benefit of the venomancer, but what would I do with Poison inmunes? Also why not using bone spears as the main attack? With the set seems to have a nice mana regen speed?

EngelZ
11-04-2004, 10:12
Because trangs kills your cast rate. I recently got it on my bonemancer and heres an example of my shooting?

Without Trang 'Ouls:
(Necro) * * * *

With Trang 'Ouls:
(Necro) * * * *


Yesirrie.

whathappen
11-04-2004, 10:48
Ah so you are saying that Trang has no increase to cast rate. I guess the only possibility to improve cast rate would be a wand and that would too small.

Because trangs kills your cast rate. I recently got it on my bonemancer and heres an example of my shooting?

Without Trang 'Ouls:
(Necro) * * * *

With Trang 'Ouls:
(Necro) * * * *


Yesirrie.

Vengeful Monkey
11-04-2004, 10:52
no the stupid casting animations of that floating vampire dealie has too many frames and fcr doesn't affect it for some reason

whathappen
11-04-2004, 11:06
Oh this is bad. I remove bonemancer from the list. In that case I am leaning towards venomancer and perhaps put some points into summons to deal with poison inmunes.



no the stupid casting animations of that floating vampire dealie has too many frames and fcr doesn't affect it for some reason

Skips
11-04-2004, 13:54
a hybrid is good.

Mad Mantis
11-04-2004, 16:19
I see the benefit of the venomancer, but what would I do with Poison inmunes?

Please use your brain. Full Trang's gives your FIRE ATTACKS!

kaervek666
11-04-2004, 16:58
And those fire attacks are quite potent once you get some +all skills equipment.

HarbingersOfSkulls
11-04-2004, 17:40
Please use your brain. Full Trang's gives your FIRE ATTACKS!

They do? :scratch: whoa....so that's why I have that thing called fire wall... :lol:

:drink: :buddies:

HoS

Mad Mantis
11-04-2004, 17:44
They do? :scratch: whoa....so that's why I have that thing called fire wall... :lol:

He wanted to know what to do against the PoisonI. I gave him an answer. Did I sound like Mr. T. G.?

:drink: :buddies:

Skips
11-04-2004, 17:50
I can use just the fire with my summoner with only 3 bits of it on, the wall is pretty uber and the fireball aint bad either and these I can use to get through act1 NM without any summons

HarbingersOfSkulls
11-04-2004, 19:50
He wanted to know what to do against the PoisonI. I gave him an answer. Did I sound like Mr. T. G.?

:drink: :buddies:

Betta watch it......sucka :lol:

Don't mind me MM, I'm just going through a phase cuz of my first Botd blade that I made...and then traded 3 um's for a Botd bow.

But...it should be common sense, that the fire spells are(and should be) used for poison...and even pi's also. Though I also know that sometimes people do not know this fact.

HoS

Baboon
11-04-2004, 22:03
a hybrid of poison with skeletons and some CE words very good against any immune.

You get extra poison damage from trang so you can spare some points for skellies and CE

whathappen
12-04-2004, 05:15
Ok So definitively I am going for venomancer. So my plans are: max poison nova, dagger, poison explosion. get Lower resist. get sufficient points on golem mastery. I am planning using Fire Golem to distract the mobs and tank. For poison inmunes, I will use Fire wall. I thought that with just 3 points in fire mastery, it would do little damage even at lvl 18 fire wall for hell. But you guys say that it will work fine.

whathappen
12-04-2004, 08:33
Well I just equiped my lvl 82 summoner necro with trang set. I had to wear 2 +str rings and charms so I can wear the set. I tried the Fire wall in a hell game with other people playing and the damage was not really that high. Now, I don't have Lower Resist. So it could have been more damage, but still, it seems that it will be slow to kill poison inmunes or I have to make a hybrid, maxing skeletons. On perspective there should be no surprise here. Sorc builds that use fire wall as an alternative skill (i.e., cold sorcs), max it (so you'll end up with 30+) and add 1 point to Fire mastery (with + skills end up in 10+).

Mad Mantis
12-04-2004, 15:16
Just get LR if you are planning on becomming a Venomancer. He needs it anyway.

niomosy
12-04-2004, 23:37
Aside from the obvious Fire skills that Trangs provides.... (which do quite well with LR and some +skills help)

Trangs will give you a +25% poison damage boost and -25% enemy poison resistance. Depending on your level of LR, you can remove the poison immunities. CE is also available and, with AD, can make quick work of the poison immunes if you've got corpses around.

You've also got your merc who should be doing some pretty reasonable damage to take care of the occasional poison immune.

If you're going the max block route, you've got a pretty fair number of points in Dex and can always weapon switch to a Fleshripper or something and melee with help from AD or Decrep. You just need a corpse or two to start the CE chain going.

Mad Mantis
12-04-2004, 23:41
Don't forget Attract. It too can help in the creation of a corpse.