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Anarchist-DH
11-04-2004, 07:16
Hey guys, I'm remaking my PvP boner and am stuck on this question. Any suggestions?

Ario
11-04-2004, 07:19
Hey guys, I'm remaking my PvP boner and am stuck on this question. Any suggestions?

I'm assuming you will be using the merc for PVM purposes and in that case I would suggest a holy freeze merc or a defiance merc. Slowing your enemies or giving them a target they can't hit is a nice thing to do :uhhuh:

HarbingersOfSkulls
11-04-2004, 09:12
Hey guys, I'm remaking my PvP boner and am stuck on this question. Any suggestions?


Rouge or HF

HoS

Skips
11-04-2004, 13:50
does an act1 rouge merc still get lightning if it has +3 to all skills?

Anarchist-DH
11-04-2004, 20:45
Doesn't HF shatter corpses? I use CE a lot, so that would be counter productive. More Defense would be good though, as I wont have any revives to tank for me.

Mad Mantis
11-04-2004, 20:53
It does shatter one or two corpses. It is not like all your enemies shatter. A few do. You can still use CE.

But how good can your CE be if you are a pure boner?

NecroManiac
11-04-2004, 21:26
It does shatter one or two corpses. It is not like all your enemies shatter. A few do. You can still use CE.

But how good can your CE be if you are a pure boner?

its actually quiet good with all the +skill gear u have, u get a nice radius, CE works wonders in hell also :)

Anarchist-DH
11-04-2004, 22:16
It does shatter one or two corpses. It is not like all your enemies shatter. A few do. You can still use CE.

But how good can your CE be if you are a pure boner?

With 1 point req and plus skills, very damn good. Amp+CE = owned.

HarbingersOfSkulls
11-04-2004, 22:24
[QUOTE=Anarchist-DH]With 1 point req and plus skills, very damn good. Amp+CE = owned.[/QUOTE

Then answered your own question...your getting a rouge merc.

And before you ask the cold or fire question...it would be fire.

Ya, ce and amp are good for leveling up...but try that on fatty's necro...and it won't be owned...it will be boned.

HoS

Mad Mantis
11-04-2004, 22:28
its actually quiet good with all the +skill gear u have, u get a nice radius, CE works wonders in hell also :)

Then you must have some pretty fancy +skills.

NecroManiac
11-04-2004, 23:35
Then you must have some pretty fancy +skills.
10 pbgcs are apart of the +skills :D

Soepgroente
11-04-2004, 23:42
What happened to the boner jokes? :hanky:

spencert
12-04-2004, 10:17
[QUOTE=Anarchist-DH]With 1 point req and plus skills, very damn good. Amp+CE = owned.[/QUOTE

Then answered your own question...your getting a rouge merc.

And before you ask the cold or fire question...it would be fire.

Ya, ce and amp are good for leveling up...but try that on fatty's necro...and it won't be owned...it will be boned.

HoS

Hmm... kinda of disagree here, I find rouge merc unable to do much in terms of crowd control. You can be over-swamped with monsters in some situations. Even with some corpse shattered, I feel HF merc is still a much better option. Of cos defiance could be another choice.

HarbingersOfSkulls
12-04-2004, 10:28
Hmm... kinda of disagree here, I find rouge merc unable to do much in terms of crowd control. You can be over-swamped with monsters in some situations. Even with some corpse shattered, I feel HF merc is still a much better option. Of cos defiance could be another choice.

Besides...a rouge is bad manners anyway for pvp(though it hasn't stopped some people).

When I asked some of the people from our forum that duel alot...about merc choices...these are the 2 that keep coming up from them.

HoS

spencert
12-04-2004, 10:58
Besides...a rouge is bad manners anyway for pvp(though it hasn't stopped some people).

When I asked some of the people from our forum that duel alot...about merc choices...these are the 2 that keep coming up from them.

HoS

Agreed. Merc has no place in PvP. Have u ever tried to duel a top notch 105 fcr sorc using a rogue merc? My god... the guy could take out my 60% block, 2.4k life bone nec out without using his sorc skills. :cheesy:

But then again.. he was the best sorc I've ever seen in PvP.

FattyMcGee
12-04-2004, 11:35
Agreed. Merc has no place in PvP. Have u ever tried to duel a top notch 105 fcr sorc using a rogue merc? My god... the guy could take out my 60% block, 2.4k life bone nec out without using his sorc skills. :cheesy:

But then again.. he was the best sorc I've ever seen in PvP.

tell me his name so I can whisper him and duel him.


Then you must have some pretty fancy +skills.

both my pvp bone necs use CE to kill more than anything in hell act 5, and have 1 point in it. And I have an 8.3 yard radius without any p&b charms in my inventory. I can only imagine what it'd be like w/ 10 of them.... 8.3 yards has been more than enough of a radius for me in pvm when leveling.




About the whole merc controversy: Yes, fire rogue is BEST for pvp (as in, when dueling). and yes it's bm but when in pubbies, it's kinda anything goes unfortunately.

for the lvling (pvm) part of a pvp character... to tell you the truth you really don't NEED a merc, since Gumby (clay golem) is all the merc you'll ever need and more. However, if you feel the need to get one, and it needs to have crowd control...

-Defiance merc is ok, but really only good if you already are using enigma so you can tele him out of danger.

-HF merc is probably your best bet, and although it does shatter a few corpses, it's not enough to do any significant harm. plus, this makes all the monsters WAY easier to hit with your bone spells.



--fatty

sunbearie
12-04-2004, 11:49
Could I just ask why fire rogues are so good in PvP games. I'm a newb so apologies for the dumb question.

Ash Housewares
12-04-2004, 12:35
What happened to the boner jokes? :hanky:

the world of necromancy is no place for jokes, those who mocked were slain and their undead flesh added to my army of lag

spencert
12-04-2004, 13:04
tell me his name so I can whisper him and duel him.




both my pvp bone necs use CE to kill more than anything in hell act 5, and have 1 point in it. And I have an 8.3 yard radius without any p&b charms in my inventory. I can only imagine what it'd be like w/ 10 of them.... 8.3 yards has been more than enough of a radius for me in pvm when leveling.




About the whole merc controversy: Yes, fire rogue is BEST for pvp (as in, when dueling). and yes it's bm but when in pubbies, it's kinda anything goes unfortunately.

for the lvling (pvm) part of a pvp character... to tell you the truth you really don't NEED a merc, since Gumby (clay golem) is all the merc you'll ever need and more. However, if you feel the need to get one, and it needs to have crowd control...

-Defiance merc is ok, but really only good if you already are using enigma so you can tele him out of danger.

-HF merc is probably your best bet, and although it does shatter a few corpses, it's not enough to do any significant harm. plus, this makes all the monsters WAY easier to hit with your bone spells.



--fatty

I'm sure u r not on Asia1. :lol:

PBUN
12-04-2004, 14:31
Yes, corpse ex. + Amp = mass monster death

I have a lv. 30ish CE and 20ish amp and after one CE usually everything on the screen dies.

I say with the merch though go Holy freeze all the way.

Anarchist-DH
12-04-2004, 17:52
I won't be using my merc in duels unless I'm screwing around with a few friends or something. This merc will be strictly PvM, and I think his true utility will be rushing friends. Sounds like HF will be the way I go, unless someone offers a brilliant alternative. Thanks for all the advice guys.