Marrowwalk question

[Noob Necro]

So..I've kind of read the thread about Marrowwalk, but I still don't get something. Let's say you have a wand with +3 Bone Spirit...if you want this bug/feature to work, you put points into the Synergies power Bone Spirit up, but not one DIRECT point into Bone Spirit?

[Mad Mantis]

Welcome Newcomer to The Darkness. Grab a brew :drink: and feel free to raise some corpses.

You are correct. One point in BP and the bug will not work. You can pump BA and BW but not one point in BP.

[Slipin]

I know u havent said anything about using the bug(yet),but please dont, in my opinion it make u less person, and is starting to give necros a bad name.
just think about how much u hated thos GA zons in 1.09 using the bug would make u no better then then(thinking about it still gives me chills).as far as your question goes MM already has it down, i'll just throw in my 2 cents.


EDIT- the forums should have spell check :thumbsup:

~Slipin

[Panix]

I know u havent said anything about using the bug(yet),but please dont, in my opinion it make u less person, and is starting to give necros a bad name.
just think about how much u hated thos GA zons in 1.09 using the bug would make u no better then then(thinking about it still gives me chills).as far as your question goes MM already has it down, i'll just throw in my 2 cents.


EDIT- the forums should have spell check :thumbsup:

~Slipin

How is this a bug when it hasn't been fixed for so long and it works with ANY item with charges?

[GenXCub]

Panix, it technically is a bug BECAUSE it works with anything that has charges. If it was only on certain items, it'd be a feature.

However, it's no different than the Mastery Bug was pre-1.10.

[prion]

So..I've kind of read the thread about Marrowwalk, but I still don't get something. Let's say you have a wand with +3 Bone Spirit...if you want this bug/feature to work, you put points into the Synergies power Bone Spirit up, but not one DIRECT point into Bone Spirit?
hi and welcome.

I'm not sure your question was answered and i think you are possibly confusing some things.

first, marrowwalk bug has to do with spell CHARGES on an item, not +skills as in your bone spirit example.

Marrowalk gives synergy bonus to other skills, which is a BUG (unintended consequence). Marrowwalk's Bone Prison charges will also RECIEVE synergy bonus from points invested in your other skills, which is a documented FEATURE (intended consequence).

However, in your bone spirit example, your +3 BS will indeed calculate using the points in synergies, but will be even stronger if you actually put points into it. Not so if you intend to use a wand with charges of level 3 Bone spirit--then yes, because of the documented feature you will get synergy bonus to it, but points in BS won't help you.
however--if you put no points in BS, then the charges will give their synergy bonus to Bone Spear, the same way as the Marrowwalk bug works. It quits working as soon as you put one point into that skill--BS in the example, or Bone Prison in the case of Marrowalk.

I hope that i've cleared some things up, but I know I suck terribly at explaining things. Please let us know if you are confused or not sure of the asnwer you seek.

[Noob Necro]

I kind of get it, but am still a bit confused. I read a bit more and heard that the bug/feature only works with Bone Prison??..I heard that you can pump all the other synergies but don't put a point into Bone Prison. And I heard you also need Marrowwalk which is a type of boot in order for it to work, which makes the game a bit more worthwhile because I have to find it now :). So I can put points into Bone Spirit and Bone Spear true?

[uncreativereally]

I kind of get it, but am still a bit confused. I read a bit more and heard that the bug/feature only works with Bone Prison??..I heard that you can pump all the other synergies but don't put a point into Bone Prison. And I heard you also need Marrowwalk which is a type of boot in order for it to work, which makes the game a bit more worthwhile because I have to find it now :). So I can put points into Bone Spirit and Bone Spear true?

I agree with Slipin and he views on marrowwalk. Dont use it plz.

You can put all the points you want in bone spear and spirit. You just can put any points in Bone prison or the bug wont work. What the bug does is give your bone spear and spirit more dmg because the charges of lvl33 Bone prison give you synerdies. And yes you do need Marrowwalk boots for the Marrowwalk bug to work.

[goofycaca]

Using it or not using Marrowwalks is your choice. You have to make up your mind as to whether charge synergies is a feature or a bug. Please remember that these synergies are NOT exclusive only to the Marrowwalk boots. They also occur with other items across other character types.

My personal opinion is that the bonus is now a feature of charges. Blizzard could have easily removed the "bug" with the 1.10 patch. They chose not to and to believe that they were unaware of it is just feigned ignorance. Leaving the charge synergies in makes it a feature, one that is difficult to come by due to the relative scarcity of items with charges of high magic level. I see no reason that you should be kept from exploiting this feature.

On the other hand, I do not advocate using this feature during pvp. I prefer the idea of a level playing field when dueling. Not that others share my ethics in this matter. Using Marrowwalks during pvm is fine with me, not in pvp though.

[XZON]

Using it or not using Marrowwalks is your choice. You have to make up your mind as to whether charge synergies is a feature or a bug. Please remember that these synergies are NOT exclusive only to the Marrowwalk boots. They also occur with other items across other character types.

My personal opinion is that the bonus is now a feature of charges. Blizzard could have easily removed the "bug" with the 1.10 patch. They chose not to and to believe that they were unaware of it is just feigned ignorance. Leaving the charge synergies in makes it a feature, one that is difficult to come by due to the relative scarcity of items with charges of high magic level. I see no reason that you should be kept from exploiting this feature.

On the other hand, I do not advocate using this feature during pvp. I prefer the idea of a level playing field when dueling. Not that others share my ethics in this matter. Using Marrowwalks during pvm is fine with me, not in pvp though.

What is so wrong with the "Marrow Walk Bug". Is it because some people refer to it as a bug that upsets everyone so much. I'll bet that the complainers would never use a Hammerdin with synergies dishing out 10k+ while teleporting all over with an enigma. (yea right)

At best, what can you get from a pure bonemancer with perfect synergies & huge plus skills? 6.5k maybe a little more. Is it true that an uber build using marrow walks can not be beaten by an uber build of another type?

I thought this game was about aquiring the best items & developing the best character that you can. If this is the goal then all necro's should equip a pair of marrows & have some fun.

[Slipin]

hey, let try to keep from going OT, anyways that remake about hammerdins,
you may thing that a teleing 10k is ver good, but hammers dont follow now do they? :evil: now a teleing 125 FCR homing bone spirt would be godly


~Slipin

[prion]

My personal opinion is that the bonus is now a feature of charges. Blizzard could have easily removed the "bug" with the 1.10 patch. They chose not to and to believe that they were unaware of it is just feigned ignorance.
I just don't see that this is necesarily the case. They've been unaware of many issues in the past. I don't think it's a stretch to say they were unaware of Marrowalk bug.

I use the word bug because it seems to be the best technical description of the situation. It is not a value judgement.

[Mad Mantis]

I'll bet that the complainers would never use a Hammerdin with synergies dishing out 10k+ while teleporting all over with an enigma. (yea right)

Not that I consider myself a complainer, but you are right. I do not use a Hammerdin. That damage is just to sick. Neither do I use any other bug, if I can help it. Don't generalise, it is not nice.

[XZON]

Not that I consider myself a complainer, but you are right. I do not use a Hammerdin. That damage is just to sick. Neither do I use any other bug, if I can help it. Don't generalise, it is not nice.

I stand corrected. I just get tired of hearing the complaints about the marrow walks. I remember a few months ago my L89 amazon came up against a tele hammerdin & poof. 1 hit lights out. I thought that was not a level playing field. (my zon bowzon has uber gear & can solo Dclone in 3-4 minutes but the duel was a joke).

[uncreativereally]

Blizzard could have easily removed the "bug" with the 1.10 patch. They chose not to and to believe that they were unaware of it is just feigned ignorance.

How could Blizzard of removed it with the 1.10 patch if thats where it started showing up? Go talk to the tech support guys in the tech channel they have no idea what the marrowwalk bug is.