Mercy's Warcry Barb Guide

[Mercy]

Alright this is my first guide, its quite intresting.

Mercy's Warcry Barbarian Guide

You'll Make Them Cry Alright!

Alright this is the breakdown of sections for the guide:

Why play a warcry barb?
Advantages//Disadvantages
Items
Skills and Stats
Socketing Your Items
Your Ideal Inventory
Strategy
Things You Didnt Know
Warnings
Special Thanks

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Why Play A Warcry Barb?

Are you one of those people in public games, who saw a warcry barb? Did you cuss him out, because he chose to play one of the most underated and fun chars?
Well, I am one of those players who chose to make a warcry barbarian regardless of how he turned out. I must say i was very surprised to see that i was actually a competitor in private, and public duels.
If you have been intrested in a warcry barb, but have not been willing to take the risk, here are some things that can maybe sway your opinion. Besides a warcry barb, what character recieves great comments in every game you enter? Let's say you happen to kill someone in a public dueling game, like a fireball sorc. The FB sorc will be so angry and feel so bad, because a simple underated warcry barb killed him. This is a character which you are respected, upon killing in dueling games. Not many characters have the ability to play with a persons mind, and make them feel flat out stupid because they lost to an underated, unique character.

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Advantages and Disadvantages

Basically the advantages of a warcry barb:
Huge Life
Massive Massive Resistances
Stun
Huge Cast Rate

The disadvantages of a warcry barb:
High Mana Costs
No Shield
Low Damage

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Items
Everything with an astric(*) beside it is the recommended item, of the choices i list.

Helms:

Harlequin Crest Shako*
Arreats Face
Valkirye Wing(.8 version)

Armor:

Breast Plate Enigma(only real armor that works. It must be breast plate!)

Weapons:

2x Wiz Spike*
2x Heart of The Oak(perf res)
2x Suicide Branch
2x Warcry spears*( on switch for casting BO)

Amulet:

Gale Shell*
Imp Brow
Armageddon Fletch

Boots:

Soul Spurs*
Grim Spurs
Marrowalks
Aldurs Advance

Belts:

Thundergods Vigor*
Arachnid Mesh
Verndugos Hearty Coil

Gloves:

Trang Ouls Gloves*
Magefists

Rings:

2x Soj*
1x raven and 1x SoJ

That basically covers the item segment of this guide. The reason why breast plate enigma is needed, is because it needs 30 str to use. If you use annihilus to tweak your str to reach the str demand, you generally will require no points in strength to use all your gear. Dual wizspike is recommended because it will cost an average of 50 mana per warcry, so the mana is highly needed.

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Skills And Stats

For skill breakdown its basically like this:
Battle Orders:20 points
Warcry:20 points
Then max as many synergies as you can for the skill "Warcry"

Stats breakdown is like this:
Str: 0
Dex: As much as it takes to use your weapon choice
Vit: The rest!
Energy:0

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Socketing Your Items

When socketing your items you have a few choices. If you want massive life you can socket everything with io runes. If you want good fhr socket a shael rune in your helm, and fhr jewels in your weps(if you choose wiz spikes). If you feel you need more energy, socket wiht lum runes. If melee chars are smoking you bad, socket with ber runes here and there. You can mix and match what you like, all of them are ideal choices.

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Your Ideal Inventory

10x Warcry charms(preffered mods on them, life//fhr)
9x 5%fhr sc's or 20 life or 20 mana
1x annihilus

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Stratedgy

Here is teh stradegies that i basically use for each type of char:

Casters

On any type of caster, its probably ideal to tele around them, launch a warcry or two. They will be casting at you like crazy because your a warcry barb, supposed to be an easy target, they think one shot can kill you. If you follow the gear reccomendations i gave you, you will have 5k+life, and 200+ stacked res. If they hit you, your fine you can actually tank most casters. By the time they cast their spell over and over, they will be burned for mana. This is your chance to tele in, and spam warcry as much as you can. Most public duelign characters dont have much faster hit recovery, so they wont be able to move or tele away. Cake.

Melee Chars

A melee char will generally chase you, thus as they run behind you, you spam a warcry. This is the hardest type of char for a warcry barb to fight, simply because they can kill you so fast, because you dont have a shield. Keep your distance, and plan your cries well.

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Things You Didnt Know

Warcry is counted as physical damage, therefore any character you duel with high high damage reduction, your cries will not really effect them that much.

Faster Hit Recovery, is probably one of the best ways a char can counter you. If they have lots of FHR, try the stratedgy for a melee char i listed.

Any character that uses a lidless wall for a shield, you can kill 9 times out of 10. With low damage reduced you can smoke them in id say 3-8 crys. Usually any type of sorc that uses lidless wall, is very easy.

A necros bone armor, stops warcry damage from getting to them. You must first kill the shield, and then your warcrys will start hurting them. Be warned you will be hurting for mana while dueling necros with a high lvl of bone armor.

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Warnings

This is a char that requires lots of talent, practice and dedication. You will not grasp this char after 5 minutes of dueling. I have been playing the warcry barb for about a month, and i still have not perfected the methods of dueling with him. Some characters, you will just not be able to kill, no matter how hard you try. This is a char that is supposed to lose. So remember that, dont get all huffy puffy when you lose, chill its underated, and its meant for fun.

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Special Thanks

Id really like to say thanks to my friend Kate. She got me started playing the warcry barb, and taught me alot about it. Thanks Kate! :cool:

I have posted this guide on another Diablo2 forum site. I did not jack this guide from anyone, I wrote it myself.

[Stahejinn]

Can you tell about your barb? I know its possible to do but I've never seen one that used it as a killing skill

[Mercy]

Basically, everything that i (*), is what i use. My barb has base str, enough dex to use wiz spike and the rest in vitality. I use 10x warcry charms with various mods, anny, and then vita charms with various res. He has about 5k+ life 200 stacked res and 1700 mana.

[Left Arm]

a disgrace to warcry barbs

no shield. dead..

that health is low

goes in to the whole warcry-barb-must-use-two weapon nonesense. who said u had to use 2x caster weapons to reach 105...

dam man even some guys shadow master is going to kick ur ***.

ur strategy section is pretty deficient, no leap strategy, played like a wind druid just tele up to ppl and spam...... all u did was create a stronger spammer then the other guy. the only thing that your warcry barb is going to beat is crappy sorcs with bad health/no stormshield, crappy necros who dont cast bone armor.

why the heck are u using trang oul gloves anyway... 25 mana regen > +2 curses.

*blobs for a duel. i hope your on west.

[Mercy]

that health is low

How much health should i have? I already put all my points into vitality, and tweaked with annihilus. Any gear suggestions?

goes in to the whole warcry-barb-must-use-two weapon nonesense. who said u had to use 2x caster weapons to reach 105...

It costs 50 mana per warcry. Can you please tell me how you would achieve maximum mana, and what gear to use so i can get 105%fcr, 1700 mana, and still use a shield?

dam man even some guys shadow master is going to kick ur ***.

I havnt died to a shadow master yet. You must be fighting some godly ones tho, wish i could fight the war with ya.

ur strategy section is pretty deficient, no leap strategy

Honest to god, why would i leap? Its slow and teh target is gone by the time the leap is complete. I wear an item called "Enigma", upon wearing the item "Enigma" i am granted the skill "Teleport". If you ask me teleport is much more faster and efficient than leap. But i dont know since my guide in your eyes is a PIECE OF ****.

why the heck are u using trang oul gloves anyway... 25 mana regen > +2 curses.

Maybe i dont wear trangs for the +2curses, i am not stupid barbs dont ahve curses. I wear them for the cold res, so cold sorcs cold mastery doesnt effect me.

*blobs for a duel. i hope your on west.

Here are a few reasons why we are not goign to duel. Reason#1 I play east.
Reason #2, if i wanted to duel you, i could just go into a public dueling game, pick out a guy who cusses alot, and doesnt have an open mind, and who cannot accept the fact that WARCRY BARBARIANS ARE MEANT FOR FUN.


Oh and i love the warm welcome i got.

Dii.net is my favourite place, i feel loved :surprise:

[Left Arm]

u know theres 3) stages of d2 playing...

1) noobhood
2) where u learn what a "breakpoint" is and think every underpowered char is fun simply cause its underpowered... a wandazon with 17 frame block and 16 whole damage might tickle ur fancy.
3) good-hood.

you are stuck at stage 2.

[memememe173]

I really must say that I see some flaws. I don't have the time to debate ATM so I won't get into it.

This has forced my hand...*cue ominous music

[Mercy]

Left Arm you've yet to qoute anything useful to me. You did not read my last post. I asked some questions that were directed to you. You seem to know all the answers so please share them. Im here to learn as well, so if you have nothing useful to input please dont bother posting at all.

If you point out an error in my guide, at least tell me what i can do to fix it. So that next time i do not make the same error. You have yet to do that.

[memememe173]

WARCRY BARBARIANS ARE MEANT FOR FUN.
So fun shouldn't be as efficiant and effective as possible?

O and Lefty...You are wrong about the shield bit. Lidless is a **** shield for blocking. Wiz is much more efficiant

[Mercy]

So fun shouldn't be as efficiant and effective as possible?

I want it to be efficient and effective as possible but i just keep getting flamed. Nobody really told me what i did wrong yet. Which is why i am bedazzled.

[memememe173]

Read some of the other guides and you'll see some of the things

[nwl-4now]

I have the highest Cry Barb I've yet to see on USEast Ladder (level 92), and my build is nothing like that.

I use:
2x HoTO (32%, 38%)
Enigma (wyrmhide, 1198 def)
2x SoJ
Arachnid Mesh
Frostburns (Ogre Gauntlets)
Aldur's Advance (for Life, Faster r/w)
+3 WarCry, +2 BO Avenger Guard, made into Delirium
+3 WarCries amulet with +93 life
10x WarCry Charms with Life

All together, this gives me level 52 WarCry (~2100 damage per cry), 4500 life, 1800 mana, and 100% FCR (more than adequate for teleporting, and for cry speed). I just don't see the point of a lot of items you use in your build, such as Wizard Spikes or TGods. Please explain?

[Mercy]

Well one question first, are you PvP?

I use wiz spikes for the res and mana. To me using hoto is expensive, and teh higher skill, the more mana wc will suck from yur pool. I use t gods for light absorb so that trappers, chain light sorcs, and CB zons dont get the best of me.

I am not exactly rich so i cannot afford teh Hotos and wc charms with life anyway, but i really dont think its necessary. You lose res and mana, i dunno how you get 1800 mana without wiz's.

And to be honest i never thought of your delerium helm.

Did you put points into energy?

Go into depth more, im curious.

[memememe173]

He's gonna be chugging mana like there's no tomorrow. That is near impossible to play PvM

[Zero-unit]

Hmm...This guide was kinda sloppy, you really did'nt put any reasons for types of gear selection. And you really had'nt done your homework, seems as if you had put one together based of what you made and not considereing what else would be optional.

Now, I don't see this would be any fun if you have melee characters killing you just becuase of not having a shield, and Defense is actually very important for any barb. I just don't see how this guide intrigues me to even touch a thought of a WC barb.

Heres's what i suggest, figure out all the different kinds of combos and find the reasons for the type of equipment instead of just listing them. Do you homework and figure out such things as Faster Cast Rate, or Faster Hit Recovery and tell us! Then remodify this Guide and im sure you wll have better results, I had similar mistakes in some parts when i made mine. (This was in no Offense at all.)

Dr@kE~

[Mercy]

Alright zero thanks for your input. Ill remodify and put in some more things. Thanks for not flaming me, and letting me know what i did wrong.

[Left Arm]

i never said use lidless for blocking... theres another guy that cant read

as i said, mercy, READ PLS since again u have shown an inability to use either eye or brain.. i said ur barb DOESNT HAVE A SHIELD and WILL DIE.

u can get STORMSHIELD with SUR RUNE and ARREATS WITH BER and either 2 cast rings and crafted amulet, or 1 cast ring, soj, and 15+ fcr amulet. AND STILL HIT GASP 8 FRAMES. with a SHIELD. which makes u LIVE. instead of DIE.

using NINE 16-17 SC which are NOT expensive or rare, u can hit 1300 mana EASILY with BASE energy.

by "most public duelers will not be able to move away" u refer to the lvl 67 ZON using a KUKU SHAKUKU, or the SORC using 2 pieces of TAL SET and casts 2000 DAMAGE FIREBALL?

wind druid, barb, paladin, sorc with Stormshield, Necro, All will beat you.

gee what are the most popular builds right now??

WIND DRUID BARB PALADIN SORC NECRO

why dont u make a wand-zon using a cracked buckler if u derive pleasure from dying using a bad warcry barb

Also, if your warcry barb doesnt know how to TO USE, OR HAVE, LEAP, TIME to REMAKE or GROW BRAIN CELLS.

in your case, its BOTH.

[memememe173]

Areat's and Storm on Singer :uhhuh:

1300 mana :uhhuh:

that might do 1k damage using all your mana with the high level WC you both have mentioned

[Zero-unit]

Oh the Flames, makes me all warm inside...

Left Arm hey, Nothing against you but you should act a little more mature in case you had not noticed It's his first guide. I'm sure all first timers including me had their mistakes and should not have to be rained upon with bad replies.

Instead of replying in such a bad way, help him and give some advice so that next time we dont have such people come in, read, and be rude.

Dr@kE~

[Mercy]

theres another guy that cant read

1. Thou Shalt Not Flame. Even if you strongly hate the content of a post, and detest the individual to whom you're responding so strongly you dream of seeing Carvers playing softball with his internal organs, please exercise restraint and post without flames. (You are allowed, however, to make rude facial expressions and socially unacceptable hand gestures as you press "submit.") Do not bypass the word filter.- Directly from RPG Forums.net

Just wondering, can you read? :thanks:

since again u have shown an inability to use either eye or brain.. i said ur barb DOESNT HAVE A SHIELD and WILL DIE.

Another thing, just because i dont have a shield doesnt mean i die. I play the barb night in and night out, and i dont necessarily die because of no shield. Some characters you simply cannot beat, like an FB sorc dealing massive amounts of damage. So generally you would respond, well use absorb, even with absorb you still die, and if you put on absorb+GA, your toast from the other chars in the public dueling game.
Last time i checked, even players with shields die. Ive actually lived longer than people who do in fact use shields, so dont give me this "You die if you dont use a shield". Yes i am more susceptible to dying, but from my dueling experiences 80% of duelers in public games are in fact Elemental characters with attacks that cannot be blocked. :thumbsup:


u can get STORMSHIELD with SUR RUNE and ARREATS WITH BER and either 2 cast rings and crafted amulet, or 1 cast ring, soj, and 15+ fcr amulet. AND STILL HIT GASP 8 FRAMES. with a SHIELD. which makes u LIVE. instead of DIE.

Why the hell would i put a sur rune in a stormshield? You think 50+ more mana adds a good number to your manapool after you just lost 200+ by taking away a wiz spike for a "sur" stormshield?
Since you want me to use a shield, i take it you want me to get max block. Max block at around lvl 80 is near 200 i believe. Well if i soak 200 in dex, i certainly will not have near 5000 life, which to you is so low. Can you explain how i get max block on a storm, and a achieve a number higher than 5000 life, much higher since 5000 is real low. :sleep:

using NINE 16-17 SC which are NOT expensive or rare, u can hit 1300 mana EASILY with BASE energy

NINE 16-17 sc of what? And bro, 1300 mana is to low. My barb has 1700 mana near that and that isnt even enough.

by "most public duelers will not be able to move away" u refer to the lvl 67 ZON using a KUKU SHAKUKU, or the SORC using 2 pieces of TAL SET and casts 2000 DAMAGE FIREBALL?

How do you know what i am refering to if you play on west and have never dueled with me before? What does a kuku shakuku and a sorc using parts of tals set that does 2000 fire ball damage, have to do with their faster hit recovery and teh ability to escape warcry?
Believe it or not, most people in pubic dueling games neglect the fact that FHR is important. Not alot of people feel its important,i wouldnt have said that most people cannot move away, if i did not feel the statement was valid, and if i did not see it with my own two eyes.

wind druid, barb, paladin, sorc with Stormshield, Necro, All will beat you.

Every character you listed, has a very elite good version of a cookie cutter. As most cookie cutter builds are used because they are good and win alot of duels. Hmmm lets ask how many peoples chars do not lose to those classes. Im sure even your characters lose to those, so really that statement you made was really unfair to throw at me.

why dont u make a wand-zon using a cracked buckler if u derive pleasure from dying using a bad warcry barb

Im fed up with your asinine pleasure of trying to make me look stupid, because i think a warcry barb should use 2x dual wizpspike. Why dont you design me the perfect warcry barb, since you love trashing mine up. However in your guide, tell me a way i can get 5000+ life, max block, 105% fcr, and 1700+ mana, AND AND the big #1 USE A SUFFICIENT LEAP STRATEDGY! Have fun :clap:

Also, if your warcry barb doesnt know how to TO USE, OR HAVE, LEAP, TIME to REMAKE or GROW BRAIN CELLS.

I know how to leap, except why would I? Why do you keep telling me to use leap when i have teleport? Lemme know of a good leap stratedgy you feel can out do teleport.

in your case, its BOTH.

Please refer back to qoute one of this post. Thanks

-Mercy

[memememe173]

How do you find your Barb PvM?

[Mercy]

How do you find your Barb PvM?

I dont do enough damage to hurt someone so i basically just cast a cry, the enemy is stunned for like 8 seconds and the pary kills them with ease and pleasure =)

[memememe173]

K two things

1. This thread is reported so that nothing worse starts

2. IF//When you re-post put PvP in your guide then. Without it is VERY misleading and can end up causing problems and flames

[Origin]

wow left arm has some serious issues o_O

i too am curious about the leap thing. please explain.

[Bob_TheMadCow]

Hi :howdy: Just in on a visit from the Pit Party.

I think this guide looks ok for a first draft. Yeah sure, the gear descions could do with a bit of explaining along the way. And unless I'm mistaken* Mercy is offering a choice of threee bugged/duped amulets as ideal gear :cheesy: (which is also not allowed by the rules of these forums) I'm not sure on those boots either :spy:

Strategies (which, incidentaly, doesn't have a "d" in it) seem a tad basic, but what would I know, I never PvPed before.

A nice addition would be to include the overall stats and figures for your own WC Barb. Like his base/BO'd life, STR/DEX/VIT/NRG with gear, BO'd mana, total +skills on your WC tree, overall resists and FCR. Just throw them in there so you can show people what the character should look like in the end.

@Left Arm: If you think you can do a better guide, I for one am eager to read it. Otherwise please try to limit your responses to useful posts that either give viable alternatives or show real problems that Mercy hasn't already pointed out himself. If you are going to poo-poo someones guide, at least have a decent arguement to folow it up with, rather than just "you're wrong cause I say so". You are only making yourself look bad with that strategy.



*Please forgive me if I am, it's been a while since I actually played...

[ƒenris]

A few recommends.
Run this through spell check, the mistakes really take a lot out of your guide.
17 Mana is the highest you get on a small charm. Check through your numbers.
Get a more detailed section on dueling different types of characters.

[Mercy]

I am going to rewrite this guide the proper way. Im just taking in what everyone is telling me to do so that indeed, the guide doesnt flop like the first version.

[Left Arm]

lol mercy... do you think warcry barbs are underpowered? they can destroy mostly anything out there besides a bone necro and a trapsin, and have difficulty only with 1-2 other builds... the reason i flame ur guide so much is that ur insulting one of the few good pvp barb builds out there, and making it seem like some sort of exotic "oh im the first to think of this unique build! but its supposed to lose! but cause its unique, its supposed to be 'fun'"

....

ur guide is like saying "for a good pvp sorc, use razorswitch staff, max strenght, use biggins bonnet, and for method of attack, namelock and spam ice bolt." ok, u might be able to win/have fun with that, but without 1) a T1 connection 2) skills far greater than urs, its not going to happen.

since u asked, mine has 5727 life, 1421 mana, lvl 43 warcry, 108 fcr, 50 hit recov, 40+ resists on top of 75 in hell, max block and DR, and doesnt lose to anything but some bone necros and trapsins, and inconsistently loses to a couple other builds. thats with base energy, base str, 140~ dex.

if u can't figure out how to get those stats, or how to use leap, pls dont write a "warcry barb guide". ur not only looking stupid but also smearing the face of one of the few dominant builds in 1.10.

o yea, by the way, wizardspike mana is not mulitplied with BO. or sojs. so sur rune adds more than the straight mana from wiz. again, use ur brain. thnx. if u cant survive with even 1700 mana... cant help u there lol

[Mercy]

ur guide is like saying "for a good pvp sorc, use razorswitch staff, max strenght, use biggins bonnet, and for method of attack, namelock and spam ice bolt." ok, u might be able to win/have fun with that, but without 1) a T1 connection 2) skills far greater than urs, its not going to happen.

How is my guide talking about a sorc, if it concentrates on a warcry barb?

"skills far greater than yours". The only skills you have seen me use are the ones im using to catch your *** making a fool of yourself. Where are you getting all this kuku shakakuku stuff, and this ice bolt sorc bologna? My guide is about playing a warcry barb, can you please stick to that topic?

if u can't figure out how to get those stats, or how to use leap, pls dont write a "warcry barb guide". ur not only looking stupid but also smearing the face of one of the few dominant builds in 1.10.

2 posts now about the silly leap strategy. Its really getting ridiculous now, your going to have to explain that one. :sleep:

Also i am not smearing the face of a warcry barb, i chose to write about one, and i play it.

[Left Arm]

i compared ur guide to a sorc built along those lines.... its called a "similie" in case ur in a 5th grade and havent learned basic grammer.

[Mercy]

i compared ur guide to a sorc built along those lines.... its called a "similie" in case ur in a 5th grade and havent learned basic grammer.

Dont talk to me about Grammar if you cant even spell the word itself.

So if my guide is as bad as a ice bolt sorc guide, then how come your the only person trashing it so terribly. You just keep saying your right, not helping worth anything. I think the only person who really helped me was zero, fenris and bob madcow.

[ƒenris]

i compared ur guide to a sorc built along those lines.... its called a "similie" in case ur in a 5th grade and havent learned basic grammer.
Actually it's Simile.
BTW, it's spelled grammar.
I think you should leave now.

[memememe173]

i compared ur guide to a sorc built along those lines.... its called a "similie" in case ur in a 5th grade and havent learned basic grammer.
I would hardly call similie basic grammer but that's off topic.

My topic is for both of you to stop befor you're banned.

Your both smearing the name of Singer barb with this childesh behavior.

And Mercy, did it ever occur that some people don't have Enigma?

since u asked, mine has 5727 life, 1421 mana, lvl 43 warcry, 108 fcr, 50 hit recov, 40+ resists on top of 75 in hell, max block and DR, and doesnt lose to anything but some bone necros and trapsins, and inconsistently loses to a couple other builds. thats with base energy, base str, 140~ dex.

With that you can do about 3500 PvP damage using your whole pool. If that's killing everything you really need to find some better duelers IMO. Very little chance of doing that without Enigma...

[Mercy]

Ill stop i guess, not worth getting banned over. I really dont think its terrible, sure it needs work i understand but to rip and trash me up, without explaining things is just wrong. I did try to write a guide, and it got ripped up in not even a reasonable manner.

[memememe173]

I do agree that he acted out of line, but I don't think you were completly blameless either.

I encourage you to add to your guide and come back with a better one. Expanded equipment selections and reasoning would be great, along with a less general dueling strategy. Describe what you do against comon oppenents.

You could also take a look at my PvM (stupid me forgot to put in title) Singer guide, which while posted know, needs some tuning for a repost on Thursday

You seem to have a lot of PvP experience with the build, so take that and run with it. Make it exclusivly PvP if that's what you know. Mine is purely PvM at the moment, until I can fine tune my barbs items and get some PvP experience. If your finished product is of the quality I hope it is, I'd love to link to it in my guide, to offer people a more PvP based build idea.

[Left Arm]

nobody is trashing ur build because nobody has made such a crappy singer before, and doesnt know how much it doesnt work.

3500 damage in the whole pool eh? does that mean a zon with 350 arrows has a million damage in its "pool"? lol.

geee zons must own then. so must warmth sorcs with lvl 1 fire bolt, sicne thats infinite mana its its "pool".

lol.

[Mercy]

nobody is trashing ur build because nobody has made such a crappy singer before, and doesnt know how much it doesnt work.

Alright, i think you crossed the line with your last post. Everything else was alright debate wise, but saying i have a crappy singer, and that i do not know how to play warcry barb is quite unfair. Just because i choose to use 2x wiz spikes, does not mean my path for teh warcry barb is bad.

I think you need some self reflecting time in a little corner. You are not god, you do not know everything about anything. I wrote a guide, why do you have to reign down and make yourself seem superior to me because your barb uses a shield and has max block. If this is teh case, not every single player on bnet uses the same gear decisions. Does that make them greater or less than me? Of course not. Its a choice i made and i do not suffer extremely bad as you think.

I dont feel the need to post anymore, in this thread. I said what i needed to say. I am going to re write the guide, and hopefully memememe173, will indeed choose to have a little space for me in his guide.

My intent was not start a big huge debate over nothing. Every time a asked you a question, you never answered it.

So thats it, im rewriting guide. Hopefully when i repost it, i do everything to a good and helpful extent. Sorry for teh invonvenience i caused anyone, i just couldn't sit still and be flamed on my first guide.

-Mercy

[memememe173]

3500 damage in the whole pool eh? does that mean a zon with 350 arrows has a million damage in its "pool"? lol.

geee zons must own then. so must warmth sorcs with lvl 1 fire bolt, sicne thats infinite mana its its "pool".

lol.
Simple. 1421 mana/ 52 mana cost per Warcry. The times that by your average damage 1481.5. After that devide by 6 for PvP penalty and again by 2 for 50%DR and you have 3500 damage as a not too rough estimate of the damage your enite mana pool could do, which is not enough to kill many good duelers

[Left Arm]

guess what i got the best godliest dueler

sorc with lvl 1 inferno and 20 warmth!!!!!

infinite mana! = infinte damage

i must own.

since when has mana pool been an indicator of how much total damage a guy can do before he loses....?

[Bob_TheMadCow]

guess what i got the best godliest dueler

sorc with lvl 1 inferno and 20 warmth!!!!!

infinite mana! = infinte damage

i must own.

since when has mana pool been an indicator of how much total damage a guy can do before he loses....?
I take it you don't like these forums? It's been a while since I've seen someone being such an *** and from your post count I can only assume you are trying to get yourself banned. :cheesy:

I told you once before to try backing your arguements up with proof, but again you have failed to do so.

And "if you don't know, I'm not gonna tell you" doesn't count as proof.

A discussion of the pros/cons of shiled -vs- dual Wiz would be a good thing. But mindless flaming doesn't help with the "smearing of the face" of the build. If you care so much, show us how you think it should be done. I officailly invite you to write a better PvP singer guide (as you didn't seem to get the implied invite in my last post). I would honestly like to see you try to do better.

I beleive the term is "put up or shut up".

EDIT: Ooooh... a new singer guide.

*note to self, check for other threads before replying to previous ones :blush:

[Origin]

gawd some mod come in here and ban left arm!

[memememe173]

guess what i got the best godliest dueler

sorc with lvl 1 inferno and 20 warmth!!!!!

infinite mana! = infinte damage

i must own.

since when has mana pool been an indicator of how much total damage a guy can do before he loses....?
Well if your skills cost mana, and you can't use potions in PvP...then it seems to me that would be a decent estimate of the damage you could do. And since you can stun, only then does it validate itself. With inferno you will be getting hit so you can't continue the cast for long

[eron]

By now it should be pretty clear that Left Arm is just a troll. Everyone can just ignore his coments and continue the discussion of the warcry barb. Mercy you may want to consider what skill or strategy if one does not have Egnima to grant the teleport skill and in some legit dueling using teleport from egnima is consider bad manner and is not allowed. Leap or leap attack will be the way for a barb to close in an opponent. I am builing a warcry barb as well, but he is for PvM only and mine doesn't have teleport and so leap is what i plan to use to get into the crowd and cast. He's too low level to try out any weapon combos yet but I tend to go with one weapon in each hand and forget shield, shield isnot as important in PvM as I can stun most things with warcry.