View Full Version : Since when is smite blockable?
goldenfrog
04-03-2004, 23:20
In a dueling game, was dueling a wind druid with an UMbral disk, the druid was able to block my smite. I saw the block animation and heard the clink sound. This happened 3 times. Tested it on a zon with storm shield and Titans ,she was also able to block my smite(same anaimation and sound) What gives? Buggy game maybe? I've never seen this before.
I had heard the Assassin can now block Smite and even BH maybe (not sure about BH). I'm not suprised that others can do it now as well. It's a new feature introduced in 1.10, to make PvP more "fair".
(Begin: extreme sarcasm) Yeah thanks Blizz, those damn Paladin Vindicators were ruining the fun for everybody. (End: extreme sarcasm)
it seems blizzard has added a serverside patch since they released 1.10
this week I found my druid blocking lightning attacks from gloams
and
smite is blockable by assassins weapon block, they can also block BH, any sorceress spell (except blizzard I think)
goldenfrog
05-03-2004, 00:03
Yeah I knew about the asn blocking and Zon dodging smite but this took me by surprise.
Halbreed7250
05-03-2004, 00:23
(Begin: extreme sarcasm) Yeah thanks Blizz, those damn Paladin Vindicators were ruining the fun for everybody. (End: extreme sarcasm)
so very true, thanks alot Blizz
inkanddagger
05-03-2004, 00:32
I've been dueling all day today and haven't noticed it happen...
it seems blizzard has added a serverside patch since they released 1.10
this week I found my druid blocking lightning attacks from gloams
and
smite is blockable by assassins weapon block, they can also block BH, any sorceress spell (except blizzard I think)
haven't seen Bh being blocked since it took the form of magical damage, what means 1.07 patch. I've seen assassins blocking smite but never Blessed hammer or nec's Bone spirit ( both are pure magical attacks). Are you sure that BH can be blocked?
haven't seen Bh being blocked since it took the form of magical damage, what means 1.07 patch. I've seen assassins blocking smite but never Blessed hammer or nec's Bone spirit ( both are pure magical attacks). Are you sure that BH can be blocked?
Can someone help out and test it? I have no access to D2 for a week, sigh.
shade449
05-03-2004, 05:03
Can someone help out and test it? I have no access to D2 for a week, sigh.
Im pretty sure it can be blocked. At least thats what the assasin faq says.
inkanddagger
05-03-2004, 05:17
hammers and bone spirits can be blocked by claw block. not by anything else.
smite cannot be blocked. nothing has blocked it today - asns havent blovcked it, wind druids havent.
javazons might dodge it though.
now what happened when you heard block animation may have been the javazon smaking you a real weak hit, and vs a wind druid he proboblyl had ravens and maybe even a bear out. Those ravens will hit you and make YOUR shield make a block noise - though it wont send you into animation since smite is uniterruptable.
goldenfrog
05-03-2004, 05:18
Everything I've ever heard or read has said smite is unblockable. Pally FAQ also says its unblockable. Only dual claw sins should be able to block smite.
Diminished-Soul
05-03-2004, 05:26
so very true, thanks alot Blizz
:lol: Lay off of him Jer or I will make you die.
I liked his sarcasm. (sadly we must say its sarcasm now or we will be flamed :rant: )
But yes I noticed this a long time ago like when 1.10 came out. But, it didn't bother me much. It was the damn charge bug that is heh nt. But, now I am Necro so I don't need to worry much. Manner Necro that is. :lol:
TheCheese
05-03-2004, 06:12
Sins have always been able 2 block magic attacks 2 my beliefs. No one ever used this ability because every sin pretty much had a ss instead of duel claws. Duel claws were very unpopular in .9 and thats why not every1 knows about this.
Well that is correct to my memory and i just got back 2 d2 so i may be wrong but im pretty sure i am right.
Sins have always been able 2 block magic attacks 2 my beliefs. No one ever used this ability because every sin pretty much had a ss instead of duel claws. Duel claws were very unpopular in .9 and thats why not every1 knows about this.
Well that is correct to my memory and i just got back 2 d2 so i may be wrong but im pretty sure i am right.
I and my friend had a few dual claw assys. They could never block spells. Smite.. yes... not spells.
Sorry.
goldenfrog
05-03-2004, 20:07
The wind druid first blocked my smite in a duel. After seing and hearing the block, the wind druid, zon and myself tested this. During the test the druid and zon both were standing still, not attacking and had no summons, merc, spirit, ravens or valk. The 3 of us thought it was so wierd that we agreed to test it properly and see if we could repeat it. We were able to repeat the bug 4 times so we decieded that was enough to report/ask what was up. All the testing took place in the same game so maybe we had a buggy or laggy game. My pally is lvl 64, druid 43 and zon 71. The druids animation was slow (umbral disk no faster block?) and the zons was fast(storm shield). Druid blocked 1 of 3 smites on first duel, 2 out of 5 on the 2nd duel. Zon blocked 1 of 5 .
sir goatscelot
05-03-2004, 20:37
I have also noticed strange blocking animations. My necro has blocked blizzard and sometimes even bonespear from claw viper type monsters. If this is indeed a server side patch, then I believe it gives a chance to block previously unblockable attacks, but at a greatly reduced chance. This is based on previous posts and my own observations. It also could be a new bug that resulted from a new server-side patch.
hammers and bone spirits can be blocked by claw block. not by anything else.
smite cannot be blocked. nothing has blocked it today - asns havent blovcked it, wind druids havent.
Then tell me why in 1.09 my C/C pvp sin could take on vindi's 10 times better then my hybrid or MA sin? (last 2 were C/S) Oh yes , because weapon block gives you 50-60% block that can block smite. And the same thing still is valid in 1.1.
Assassin's with dual claw are able to block if they use that special assassin skill but their max blocking is only 60%. However, for other classes, I believe that is not a blocking animation but rather HIT RECOVERY. When you lose 10% of your life, you go into hit recovery.
p.s. Smite is blockable by assassins with weapon block skill.
p.s. #2 C'mon, aren't I the Edit King?
inkanddagger
05-03-2004, 22:25
all the asns I've dueled have been 2 hit kills anyways, so they didn't have a chance to block. but the wind druids always have lots of life and I have to use a stormshield istead of my uped HoZ - muchless dmg, and I have NEVER heard them block. In fact i dueled and 8k life barbarian with sigons shield yesterday to tet this out - I hit him for about 2 minutes and no block noise.
goldenfrog
05-03-2004, 22:41
Must have been a buggy game or something.
Must have been a buggy game or something.
Maybe it was hit recovery and not blocking.
I'm not sure if assasin can block smite with weapon block (only when using two claws) I havent tested it yet, they can however block all attack including foh BH blizzard etc, only thing they cant block is splash damage, I think they cant block hurricane either.
I'm fairly sure that the exact same thing counts for amazons.
I'm not sure if assasin can block smite with weapon block (only when using two claws) I havent tested it yet, they can however block all attack including foh BH blizzard etc, only thing they cant block is splash damage, I think they cant block hurricane either.
I'm fairly sure that the exact same thing counts for amazons.
You may not be sure but I am. They can block smite.
http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=129210
7. Attack types blocked by weapon block
After patch 1.10 was released weapon blocks abilities was changed alot, now it no longer just blocks melee attacks but it will also block various types of elemental attacks, making it very useful against casters. Below is the list of elemental attacks that are blockable and unblockable.
Class-based Elemental Skill list(note: some monsters use the below skills, like Fetish Shamans using Inferno):
Chain/Lightning/Sentry/Phoenix Strike - Blockable
Wake of/Inferno/Artic Blast - Unblockable
Blade Fury - Blockable
Blade Sentinel - Blockable
Blade Shield - Blockable
Poison Nova - Blockable
Teeth - Blockable
Bone Spear - Blockable
Bone Spirit - Blockable
Blessed Hammer - Blockable
Fist of the Heavens - Blockable
Smite - Blockable
Fireball - Blockable
Firebolt/Hydra - Blockable
Phoenix Strike/Meteor - Blockable (only impact damage is blocked, residual flames unblockable)
Firewall - Unblockable
Blaze - Unblockable
Blizzard - Blockable
Ice Bolt/Frozen Orb/Phoenix Strike - Blockable
Fissure - Unblockable
Hurricane - Blockable
Molten Boulder - Unblockable
sir goatscelot
06-03-2004, 01:55
Since at least 1.09, Assassins using clawblock, have a chance to block smite.., no other class could do that. In 1.10 they still can block it. But in 1.10, it looks like there was a recent change that either bugged blocking so as to allow previously unblockable attacks, smite, bonespear etc, to be blocked, or a new feature allowing this but just getting noticed now..
Since at least 1.09, Assassins using clawblock, have a chance to block smite.., no other class could do that. In 1.10 they still can block it. But in 1.10, it looks like there was a recent change that either bugged blocking so as to allow previously unblockable attacks, smite, bonespear etc, to be blocked, or a new feature allowing this but just getting noticed now..
A good link to your information would be helpful. Thanks.
FallNAngel
06-03-2004, 05:18
ROMVS: I know I'm not a big source or anything, but I am positive that in 1.09, C/C Assassins have been able to block Smite. This was the only "bonus" to weapon block back then. It was treated otherwise as a shield except they could block smite.
In 1.10, they are still able to block smite, as well as several other attacks, namely BH, bone spear, spirit, etc as listed above. I don't think anyone knows if this is intended or not, but it can happen.
sir goatscelot
06-03-2004, 05:43
Well I wish I could point out where I got the info but it's just general d2 stuff I know.., from my own trails and others, as well as observations with 1.09 and 1.10. I also frequent the lurker lounge and the amazon basin so I pick up info from these sights as well. I know for sure 1.09 claw block worked for smite, and 1.10 still does also because I have done it. The blocking however is still modified by clvl and claw weapon speed factor I believe. This is why some people see Assassins blocking smite and some don't.
goldenfrog
06-03-2004, 08:03
No blocked smite today. I guess the game was just screwy.
WvX_leader
06-03-2004, 08:06
can anyone say... raven?
mabye it wasnt HIM ;)
No blocked smite today. I guess the game was just screwy.
All I can say is smite better be still blockable by weapon block or I'm gonna have one sad dual claw sin. =( I'm gonna try to test it with my friends when I get back on... in a WEEK!!! Ughh, cables companies install lines as if they were dial-up.
Yeah, I may have been out of things for awhile but I do remember my C/C Claw Block Sin blocking Hammers, Blizzards, and everything else...
I even recall blocking the 1.10 patch with claw-block, they had to manually patch me in to 1.10...
Soepgroente
08-03-2004, 22:46
Perhaps it had to do something with minion stacking. I've heard such stuff elsewhere. This is of course only possible if the druid was using enigma.
Tam Snotthrower
09-03-2004, 04:28
Has anyone ever blocked Fist of the Heavens? That's one of the stupidest changes.
WvX_leader
09-03-2004, 04:32
I even recall blocking the 1.10 patch with claw-block, they had to manually patch me in to 1.10...
:lol: :clap:
Zero-unit
09-03-2004, 04:42
Hello, I've been reading this and i have had a Dual claw Assassin for quite a while. For one in .9 Assassin could always block Smite and still can. And in 1.10 Dual claws can block even more including all Magic attacks and most Elemental attacks.
Dr@kE~
TheCheese
09-03-2004, 07:32
Well maybe the minions where interupting your smite???
You probably went into fhr animation before you landed the hit?????
Well maybe the minions where interupting your smite???
You probably went into fhr animation before you landed the hit?????
I thought smite is uniterruptable?
Zero-unit
10-03-2004, 05:48
Smite is uninteruptable, and the FHR Animation is the block animation. But as far as I'm concern Weapon block is the only thing I see blocking smite.
Dr@kE~
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