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What is the biggest number of minions you can have at one time?
20 revives+mages+merc+golem+skeles sound good.
Is it possible to lag people so bad they "time out?"
HarbingersOfSkulls
24-02-2004, 12:15
What is the biggest number of minions you can have at one time?
20 revives+mages+merc+golem+skeles sound good.
Is it possible to lag people so bad they "time out?"
If I max out Revives, I can have 35 total revives. Add that to 22 total skeletons and Mages(depending on what gear I want to use could have 2 more of each), a My Faithful pet Vine, Ravens, and either HoW,OS, or SoB. And I'm able to do some serious damage to LyteHammer, Beatboxer(sorry for the dialup), and TheFatty.
I have made a few people time out during public baal runs, just because of the isp they are on.
Tonight, while in a game with Hammer and a few of our friends, I checked my fps and had a low 29 with Hammer and his full Summoner squad(on dsl). While, I had Hammer down to a low of 12 fps(on cable). Thanks for being honest their Hammer :thumbsup: :drink: .
Other friends of ours, as soon as they see my lagamancer in a game..ask me not to bring out the revives and vine. But, I bring out vine anyway(cuz It's my favorite pet) and leave out revives to make it easier for them or when BeatBoxer is on.
HoS
the lowest i been brought down to is 3 fps. On cable, 512 ram but geforce 2 MMX card with 800x600 resolution not pretty :P.
i always get 60fps, (with 40fps "lags") and those "lags" wasnt coz the summoners, was coz the windruid + 3 sorc's
512 RAM + Radeon 9100.
i am "summoner" with my 10 skellyes, 8 revives, 3 mages that i dont use(1 point), my 3K clay golem, and lvl82 might merc. i gear MF stuff with few +skills
Ash Housewares
24-02-2004, 13:20
now now, lag is a biproduct, it shouldn't be the goal, while we can lag and ignore those who whine, we shouldn't go and delibertately try to lag them, lag should be a non issue, not an accomplishment
thats just my opinion
Lyte_Hammer
24-02-2004, 18:19
well it started out that way ash...... but after a while you just wanna seek revenge on those damn whiners...... so lag is the new goal.... it is the only goal.....
Indemaijinj
24-02-2004, 18:42
Heh, I've frequently had lengthy 1 fps spikes.
Ironically, such situations are best handled by a ...skelliemancer.
HarbingersOfSkulls
24-02-2004, 18:52
well it started out that way ash...... but after a while you just wanna seek revenge on those damn whiners...... so lag is the new goal.... it is the only goal.....
:drink: :buddies:
I have to agree with my buddy Hammer, when I have only my Skeletons out and they cry about lag....and it's d@mn you Necro. Then it's time to bring out the rest of the undead horde.
Toughest thing is getting 12 revives out quickly, maintaining them was somewhat easy.
HoS
derthgar
24-02-2004, 19:03
only time i really lag is when i have 8 people in a game with 4 sorcs and 2 wind drugs all throwing their stuff. other than that if i lag it is a bnet issue.
What is the biggest number of minions you can have at one time?
20 revives+mages+merc+golem+skeles sound good.
Is it possible to lag people so bad they "time out?"
I never lag from minions. The biggest number for me is:
18 revives 14 skeleton 12 mages 1 golem 1 merc
Ash Housewares
25-02-2004, 00:29
then I'm turning in my wand, I don't like the conduct of necromancers today, Dosvedanya, Comrades.
Lyte_Hammer
25-02-2004, 01:18
ahh come on ash it isn't that bad....... its just our little way of retaliating every now and then...... its not like lagging is the only thing we do
Ash Housewares
25-02-2004, 02:59
I grow weary of being the Necro forum grumpy old man
back in my day when we were mad we used to yell "FLOBLEDEEFLEE!" why? because we were idiots and we didn't know what else to say
Anyone that disrespects a necro will pay dearly!
gods_pawn
25-02-2004, 06:46
IMO pure zookeepers have the easiest job in the game, with the least amount of skill required, with the most lag created....
now i can feel a flaming coming on, but hear me out.
You guys max:
Raise Skeleton (little skellies who DO the fighting FOR you)
Raise Skeletal Mage (little skellies who SHOOT things FOR you)
Skeleton Mastery (to make those little skellies a bit more versatile)
Revive (to revive whoever your skellies killed to DO more fighting FOR you)
and what, might i ask is your guy's job besides raising these beasts to work FOR you? well, you occasionally amp here and there, or even LR some, while trying to stay out of the way of incoming crossfire.
Hey if you like that, then it's your perogitive - i just find it extremely boring.
Ever do baal runs with three (yes, 3) pure zookeepers?! it was practically like playing a slide show!!!
but hey, its safest and a good way to get a character into hell who can survive solo.
IMO pure zookeepers have the easiest job in the game, with the least amount of skill required, with the most lag created....
now i can feel a flaming coming on, but hear me out.
You guys max:
Raise Skeleton (little skellies who DO the fighting FOR you)
Raise Skeletal Mage (little skellies who SHOOT things FOR you)
Skeleton Mastery (to make those little skellies a bit more versatile)
Revive (to revive whoever your skellies killed to DO more fighting FOR you)
and what, might i ask is your guy's job besides raising these beasts to work FOR you? well, you occasionally amp here and there, or even LR some, while trying to stay out of the way of incoming crossfire.
Hey if you like that, then it's your perogitive - i just find it extremely boring.
Ever do baal runs with three (yes, 3) pure zookeepers?! it was practically like playing a slide show!!!
but hey, its safest and a good way to get a character into hell who can survive solo.
Skelimance is super cool. If I can send the army out without my necro i will be very glad :D:D:D. Sitting there look at my favorite website and let the skeleton do the dirty jobs :D
Its even more fun teleporting onto people in pubby duels :king:
Shame you can't tele onto people then tele away leaving all your minions on top of them.
Shame you can't tele onto people then tele away leaving all your minions on top of them.
YUP!!!!!!! The cries of "DUEL ME, NECRO!!!" changing to "WHERE ARE YOU??" leading to "HEY, MO MINIONS" and finally "NO FAIR!!!" - as if a barbarian is going to go duelling without sword mastery, or BO....
Also, teleporting onto someone's head is the BEST way to deal with those pesky PK'ers...... Especially then going and corpse guarding it from their buddies!!!!
:D
I REALLY hate those guys....
memememe173
04-03-2004, 04:37
You can get Ravens and Dire WOlves (i think spirit wolves is barb only)
Cerebron
04-03-2004, 04:55
My numbers are 21 Revives + 7 Mages + 14 Skellies + 1 Golem + 1 Merc = 44. I have only 1 point in Mage, otherwise the number would be slightly larger.
Minions don't cause lag, they are not real. Real things cause real lag. Real things include computer chips, cable, RAM, network card, your mouse.
I played with 3 summoners in one game. nearly 200 minions. I didn't see any lag.
Crocop owns you
04-03-2004, 05:56
Usually i lag all the time on 56k but my summoning necro or other summoning necros NEVER lag me.
i htink only other characters lag because they don't have the build cached in memory like the necromancer is
i could be wrong
17 Skeletons, 17 mages, 40 revives, golem, merc, oak, 5 ravens, me = 83
I miss 1.09, about 130 minions. :(
johndowis
04-03-2004, 20:01
At least it isn't like 1.09 where people had well over 100 minions each.
my worst frame rates were 0 at times when I completed the SHenk quest and in a few Baal Run games with 4 or more sorceresses when the last group of minions spawned...
0 or 1 is pretty annoying though I'm hoping my new cable connection will at least fix the 2000+ ping rates I've had which are far more deadly to me than the frame rate dropping.
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