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Reaper of Souls Collector’s Edition Pricing and Features ControversyPosted 21 Dec 2013 by
Blizzard reps have made a few posts replying to fan comments, questions, and critiques on the Reaper of Souls pricing and RoS:CE features. (There’s a soundtrack included as well, which is not yet listed on the official page.) See the FAQ for official info, and see updated in some blue quotes:
Players who purchase the standard edition of Reaper of Souls will receive 2 additional character slots by default, for a total of 12 character slots. (This functionality is currently implemented and live for Closed Beta). Players who purchase the Digital Deluxe or Collector’s Edition of Reaper of Souls will receive the base 2 character slots (for purchasing the expansion) plus another 3 character slots (for purchasing the DD or CE), for a total of 15 character slots.
Clarification on what the Spectral Hound does:
Lylirra: The Spectral Hound is just a vanity pet at present. It’s fully animated and has its own unique personality (scratches its ear, sniffs the ground, digs up zombie bones, etc), but it doesn’t provide any character power.
Can we “unsummon” it (like the wings)?
Lylirra: Yup. The Spectral Hound minion will be an item in your inventory which you can summon and dismiss at will (very similar to the wings). I don’t know off-hand if the Hound will persist through death or show up in the main Hero select screen, though. I have that question out to our QA team.
Does the Spectral Hound: Persist through death?
Yes, and it currently persists across logouts as well.
Does the Spectral Hound: Show up on the main character select screen if he’s active?
A larger point of contention is the price point for the expansion. While $40 is fairly standard for an expansion, some fans and semi-mainstream gaming sites have criticized the amount of new content, arguing RoS is more like a DLC pack than a full expansion. What do you think?
That’s the vote; click through for blue posts and commentary on this issue:
The proof is in the pudding. Several threads locked as of late, some of them regarding people showing dissatisfaction with the quality/price, or just simply trying to gauge if we intend to buy or not.
If I had to speculate, they might be a tad worried about the reception. Maybe they see now their price is too high for an expansion? Or maybe they realize the didn’t provide enough unique and interesting content to justify an expansion?
Maybe I’m wrong, those are my thoughts anyway. Wouldn’t be surprised if this thread gets locked.
Lylirra: “Wouldn’t be surprised if this thread gets locked..”
You’re right! Recently responded to a similar theory here (take a look):
Recap: We’ve no issue with players sharing negative feedback or saying they don’t like something provided that they’re generally constructive about it. We also want to make sure we’re seeing that good, constructive feedback, so we’re locking down discussions that don’t contribute to a healthy forum atmosphere (in so much as we can without moderating players unfairly).
RoS has a release date so I come on to check talk about it, and almost every thread bashing it or talking bad about blizzard is locked?
Lylirra: Not even remotely true. There are many active threads discussing the price, value, and contents of the Reaper of Souls digital prepurchase, including the Digital Deluxe and Collector’s Editions. And those threads will remain untouched so long as the conversation therein remains civil.
Example threads have been locked:
Example threads that are still active:
Big difference in the threads types. We’ve no issue with players sharing negative feedback or saying they don’t like something provided that they’re generally constructive about it.
I’m not going to quote them, but there are also numerous posts complaining about the RoS-themed makeover to the B.net forums. Perhaps I have a brighter monitor or something, but I honestly hadn’t noticed any real difference. The B.net forums used to be red and black and now they are blue and black, with gold highlights. Those complaints make me think many people are just hanging around to complain and to delight at the sight of Blue CMs who have to humor their whinging.
So, what do you guys think about the RoS content and price point? Too pricey and not enough? I’ve asked friends who play WoW and they say RoS is maybe 2/3 the content of a typical WoW expansion… of course WoW costs $15 a month on top of $40 per expansion, and that does buy a larger team and more regular/sizeable updates. I think RoS compares pretty well to D2: Lord of Destruction, if comparisons to products from 13 years ago, before the days of small DLC updates, are even useful?
D2X added 2 classes and a new act, plus tons of new items including charms, jewels, runes, new uniques, etc. D3X adds 1 new class and a new act, but new skills for all existing classes, a higher level cap, lots of new items and item-like things that really overhauled the economy. D3X is not adding so many big changes to items as D2X did, but there are many major systems changes that D2X did not include. RoS is reworking the whole combat system with all the changes to healing and life leech and monster damage, plus Loot 2.0, Paragon 2.0, and things like Adventure Mode and Nephalem Rifts.
That stuff doesn’t fit real neatly into a “new content added” type bullet list, which might be why some players are saying that Reaper of Souls has not enough content. I can see their point, and requests/demands for that all in free patches make some sense, but on the whoel I think RoS is a pretty good amount of content for the price, especially as it’s not an MMO with a monthly subscription fee, or a cash item shop that you pretty much have to buy from in order to play the game properly.
You guys may disagree, and I guess we’ll find out via the vote and comments. So let ‘em rip, in the best almost-Xmas spirit…