Open Beta Weekend = Noobs!
Posted 22 April 2012 by FluxThe influx of new players has brought something of a return to the early days of the Diablo 3 beta, with a constant stream of Diablo 101 type questions being asked on the official forums. A couple of quotes that got Blue replies.
I hate the point&click to move system. I haven t played a similar game since Diablo2 and this is a very annoying system when all the other games I like are awsd.
Otherwise this game looks awesome in terms of graphics. Some of the UI is not that intuitive but you get used to it. Animations are great and voice acting also is nice. But I just can t stand the point&click when being able to use awsd would achieve better movements since the character seem to NOT stop when you release the mouse, they keep walking/running for 2 seconds until they stop which makes you have to click the ground.
Just a reminder here — like previous games, the shift key holds your character in place. I utterly love the cursor-based movement of Diablo games, but I’ve been playing them for 15 years now.
Why are we forced to pick up gold?
It’s a pain in the rear to have to pick up gold. Of course everybody wants gold, so why not make it automatically get added to your inventory after like 2 seconds. This way, we waste less time picking up gold and more time fighting, while still being able to see how much is getting dropped and feeling “wow that boss just dropped 200k gold!!!”
You kinda just have to run sort of near it… Because it’s cool to see items and gold explode out of enemies when you kill them.
It’s funny how things change with time and circumstance.
These sorts of comments were infuriating back in September, when hardly anyone from the Diablo community was in the beta and the D3 beta forum was full of people from the top WoW guilds who’d gotten special early invites and didn’t have the first clue how to play a Diablo game. Now that we can play also…. it’s fun. Fun! Like watching dogs running in the first snow they’ve ever seen, clueless and crazed, but amusing in their blundering enthusiasm!
I can’t even go on the official forums lately, too much rubbish posted. I have no problem with a newer player asking a legitimate question about the game, but what I can’t stand is the number of posts about “Why Diablo 3 will fail” or “How to FIX Diablo 3.” I think One of the threads even suggests 10 and 25 player raids….and I don’t think they were trolling… *shutters*
Yea those people are pretty boring and I would really like all of them to stfu.
But, but, I thought all WoWers were 733t?!?!
And whats with all the rushing? This one group i was with left champ mobs and stuff and I said fellas are you rushing to NM and they are like “wha?”. Slow your roll. They go “we gotta do SK runs”. For the xp? maybe. I was getting decent gold and drops in the open cemeteries and the crypts…but you have to sweep and clear. I would like to start a petition for a diablo-only server. Meaning, thats all you play, have played, or will play. yeah, i’m an angry old man…but i looooove D3.
Same here. People rush to the Skellie like theres no tomorrow. Im finding Champs and bosses left and right, finding chests and have to do them alone while everybody storms the SK and he drops what ? two ****ty blues… lol. (at least after the first run)
same here, wtf is wrong with ppl…
Yeah, I’ve pretty much decided to not even do multiplayer until Inferno because I hate rushing through the game so much and that’s what everyone else seems to want to do. Of course, in Inferno it is optimal to clear through everything so hopefully all the attempts at rushing will have ceased at that point…
Having been in the beta for a decent amount of time and having done all of what you said. SK runs are the best exp I’ve found in the beta. However, anyone who’s played a bunch of Diablo also knows that getting max level is like the first 20% of the game. In D2 I’ve never admitably gotten to 99, but that’s more of how much time do you have to sink into it rather than an testament of skill. Everyone knows that it’s going to come down to an item grind which is why to some players avoiding a champion seems odd, but in the beta it’s only to lvl 13 so even the gear is kinda confined. But yes I know your feeling, though I won’t explore everything anymore. Maybe my first playthrough I may? But I’m also going to be trying to get those high levels and experience the Hells and Inferno’s quickly.
I couldn’t agree more. Everyone always rushing. It only takes one person running ahead and everyone feels they need to keep up. It has really discouraged me from doing public games. I wish it was possible to create named games…
I know, I’ve been facepalming all week-end.
Can I tell you my thoughts from the Beta.
I don’t really have a problem with the point and click for walking But that is infact old school. Another old thing is the terrain, you can’t pass a bush…it’s like a rock. Stuff like that feels 15 years ago.
So if they made the game like it was 1995, they why couldn’t they have made it a copy of DIIexp instead only with upgraded graphics and a bunch of new features. We all know that game is great.
Know what? Some times ‘old school’ isn’t half bad – in fact, I’d go so far as to claim that Blizzard would have lost a lot of followers, had they tampered with the controls.
For us ‘old school kids’, Diablo equals isometric view, 95% mouse control, monsters exploding all over the place and lots and lots of loot
This is Diablo dumbass, not warwack or call of unoriginality.
then please, go play those games. i would never go to the CoD sites and start telling them to make it like diablo. i simply go to diablo. i feel like im insane. and i agree 1000% with herlocks too.
That has nothing to do with technology, they do that on purpose. Are you new to gaming altogether or what’s wrong with you?
go play D2 THIS IS DIABLO 3
Point-and-click to move IS Diablo. It’s one of the defining mechanics of the game (an isometric[-esque] point-and-click action RPG) and what’s wrong with that? You don’t expect to use WASD or analog type movement for RTS or MOBA games like DotA/LoL/HoN too, do you?
For a static camera type game (that’s basically isometric) like Diablo, WASD would be terribly awkward to control, because of it’s restrictive 8-directional nature. WASD type control only works well for 1st and 3rd person type games where you can use mouselook in tandem with WASD to control movement. Point-and-click, on the other hand, is far more efficient. It’s tried and true, WTH change it.
For everyone playing and complaining about controls and having to hold SHIFT to stand-still, here’s my somewhat WASD style setup (I used this in any game that supports this type of config like Skyrim for example so I’m used to it). It feels tightly couple and naturally grouped which is much better than 12345 which are far apart, my hand never moves away from the area with all required fingers hovering their keys at all times.
LMB = skill #1
RMB = Skill #2
E = Skill #3
S = Skill #4
D = Skill #5
F = Skill #6
W = Potion
R = Stand still
T = Town Portal
G = See items on ground
V = Drop banner
Rest of the skills, achievements, etc panels are on I O P J K L N M away from the controls
I personally like setting my hand so that my fingers on the number keys and by thumb is on the D key and rebind that as the stand still button and then remap potion to 5 so I can easy move my index finger over and hit it when I need it. I then have skills ordered for how much I use them starting with 4 (since the index finger is strongest, so it’s easier to spam that key) and working down with 2 and 1 being things like long term buffs or emergency skills. Then I remap the quests to Q and the journal to J just because it makes sense, and the stuff I don’t use like the toggles for options I always want on I remap to things on the right side so I don’t accidentally hit them. Most of the key bindings are in good spots though, although I used to have to map the inventory pane to C before they changed the default secondary key for it to (the default was B before).
****ING noobs
lol noobs
At least we can take advantage of there noob behaviour on the AH.
Like lambs to the slaughter, Easy money !
I’m thinking that Flux got molested on his level 3 Orc when WoW launched that’s why hes bashing on it every chance he gets
Also, wasd movement in a Diablo game…. I think that’s the ONLY thing that would make me NOT get the game.
most of us can acknowledge that WoW might be the biggest videogame hit ever. certainly for MMO. but its the holier than thou, games didn’t exist before WoW attitude that chaffs a lot folks including myself. I personally don’t care about the game. never played it. don’t want to. but don’t swim over to my side of the pool and start frothing at the mouth about how it sucks, needs to change, stole from WoW, and on and on. If you like your game, then go play it. No game is perfect and of course we will need some time with D3 to see how the full game holds up, but from what i’ve seen so far it is well done.
he bashes wow because he’s never played it and he’s jealous of its popularity. so mature! but i on the other hand dislike wow because i played it for 3 years and got really bored. the action is incredibly slow-paced, and every quest feels exactly the same but with some different graphics thrown on top. i always (tried) to play it as a single player game, but there were countless times where i was forced to interact with other people to complete a quest or level up a profession. when i started raiding the game became 500 times less fun than it already was because guilds take themselves so seriously and have such a skewed sense of self-importance. i’m hoping D3 won’t make me feel that way
Not all guilds are like that. I’ve been in a few that were all people in their 20s and up and we joked around and did random stuff for s***s and giggles all the time and still had good raid progression… It may take a while to find one like that with an opening that raids on your schedule, but they’re out there…
Not impressed with this demo. Oh wait I mean beta (not).
well i just Love the game, sure there are some things i would like to see change, like the opening the skill window to change my skills, but i will work around this as soon as the game comes out and i figure out what works for me. I will set up all that to Keys. Right now i am just focusing on the frigging Awesome product they have giveing us. I cant go on the official forums to say thank-you to blizzard for alowing me to play because i dont have an Active Wow subscription.
I have so far played all of the classes up to Level 10 just because i want to play them alll befor my short lived Beta time is up, One pet peve is i do not like the gold sharing accross all the toons, changing toons is kind of a hassle, i can’t seem to figure out how to make the Mini map disapear or swap it to the other side of the screen like you could do in D2 LOD. ,well i have wasted enough of my precious d3 time typeing all of this , anyways its great playing a new blizzard title again i have been waiting for this game for 10 years. Thanks Blizzard!
There’s a hint in the game name, and I’m not trying to be a smartass here, that should indicate why some things are different from Diablo 2 – maybe the 3 is the clue?
im not even checking the forum this weekend, too many spam ^^ i posted a serious bug yesterday but it was buried down in 2 hours by some stupid threads ^^