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Ring of Royal Grandeur Farming Exploit?

You want? You take!

You want? You take!

The DiabloWikiRing of Royal Grandeur (armory) has become the most sought after item in Diablo 3, as its legendary affix is basically mandatory for all end game gearing decisions, given the power of partial Item Set bonuses. The hard part is finding one, as it’s one of the five legendary items that can only be obtained from Act One Horadric Caches. This is good in a way, as it’s the sole remaining item/profit-based reason players have to do *anything* other than RiftRiftRift. (Given the game’s design direction in recent months, I’m frankly surprised the RoRG hasn’t been turned into a Greater Rift Guardian drop.)

Most players hunt RoRGs with brute force, by grinding hundreds of Act One bounties as quickly as possible, which usually means split-farming on Normal difficulty. That’ll work, eventually, but is there a better way? A user in our Diablo 3 community forum named Horadrimm says yes, there’s a trick to it, by following a method players are calling the “Junger Rules.” Quote:

I got 5 RORGS with very minimal effort and so can you!!

How it works: The game has a pity timer, meaning that if you don’t get a legendary within an hour or so it drops one for you automatically. The goal the aforementioned method of farming is to ensure that pity drop is in your horadric cache and not in the world.

What to do:

  • Do not kill any mobs except those required for objectives.
  • Do not kill goblins.
  • Do not open chests including resplendent chests.
  • Do not destroy breakables (pots, barrels, looting bodies etc).
  • Do not pop fortune shrines.
  • Do not kill mobs from required cursed chest and shrine event objectives until the timer has run out.
  • Avoiding a legendary drop in the world increases the chance the pity timer drops one in your cache.

    First off, the guy who invented this was apparently named Junger, so now it’s called the “Junger Rules.” Which is fine, but how the hell did they avoid the obvious pun and call it the “Junger Games?” So that’s what I’m calling it, since I’m all about obvious puns.

    As for the technique, the theory is that since the game has a “pity timer” that increases your chances of finding a legendary item the longer you go without finding one, you can exploit this by obtaining a Horadric Cache after not finding any Legendaries for some time. Hence not killing Goblins, not opening golden chests, avoiding random Elites, etc. This is a sacrifice since it’ll lower your total legendaries found, but boost your chances of finding that all-important RoRG.

    Does it work? Some players swear it does, others say it doesn’t. And thus we’re plunged back into the conspiracy theories that are inevitably spawned by item hunting in a game where we don’t know exactly how item drops work. I think the principle is sound, as the pity timer is real, but I’m not at all sure the stated rules are how it should be done.

    First of all, we don’t know when items in a Horadric Cache are determined. The Junger Gamers say the legendary pity timer works when you find the Cache, but that seems contrary to what we know about how Horadric Caches determine their item drops. Remember early in RoS, when players were storing Caches up in Normal and opening them on Torment 6? That was a real exploit, easily observed since it caused Imperial Gems to drop from Caches found in Normal. (Which made it seem that items in Caches were determined when the Cache was opened. NOT when it was found.)

    Blizzard confirmed that exploit by hotfixing it and adding an internal tag to unopened Caches that tracked what DiabloWikidifficulty level they were found on, and the level of the character that farmed them. (So if you find bags with a lvl 70 and open with a lvl 60, all the items will be lvl 70.) Bliz later expanded on that in Patch 2.0.5 when they boosted the chances for legendary items to drop from Caches found on Torment 2 and higher.

    Furthermore, Bliz recently confirmed that items from Caches roll their smart drop according to the class of the character that opens the cache. It doesn’t matter who farms the cache in terms of what items drop. That matches my experience and testing as well, as I once farmed a bunch of caches with my DH and my Barb, and then opened them with a WD and got almost all INT gear, plus several Witch Doctor-restricted items.

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    Guide: Legendary Gems

    legendary gems guideLegendary Gems were first officially revealed in the Patch 2.1 preview blog back in June of this year.   They will be added to Reaper of Souls in Patch 2.1, and are currently undergoing testing on the PTR.

    The gems add special bonuses when socketed in rings and amulets (only on Characters and not on Followers), and can be upgraded in power via DiabloWikiUrshi, the NPC who appears after Greater Rifts are cleared.

    While the developers are calling them “legendary gems” these socketables have nothing in common with regular DiabloWikigems in stats or appearance, and are more analogous to the Rainbow Facet unique jewels of Diablo 2. The main difference in Diablo 3 is that these gems can only be socketed in jewelry, and the way the gems can be upgraded to improve their functions over time.

    Legendary Gems Listing

    While the Legendary Gems are still undergoing development on the DiabloWikiPTR, their stats and bonuses are changing constantly. A major revision was created on July 15, 2014 with new or upgraded stats for almost every gem. The following are the most current details about Legendary Gems.

     

    DiabloWikiBane of the Powerful
    bane of the powerful
    • Gain 30% increased damage for 20 seconds after killing an elite pack.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +1 second buff duration.
    • Rank 50 unlocks: Gain 20% bonus damage to elites.
    DiabloWikiBane of the Trapped
    bane of the trapped
    • Increase damage against enemies under control-impairing effects by 20%.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +0.5% damage.
    • Rank 50 unlocks: Gain an aura that reduces the movement speed of enemies within 15 yards by 30%.
    DiabloWikiBoon of the Hoarder
    • 30% chance on killing an enemy to cause an explosion of gold.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +1% chance on kill.
    • Rank 50 unlocks: Gain 30% increased movement speed for 3 seconds after picking up gold.
     DiabloWikiEnforcer
     enforcer
    • Increase the Critical Hit Chance of your pets by 20%.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +0.4% Critical Hit Chance. Max +20% upgrade (+40% total).
    • Rank 50 unlocks: Your pets are unkillable.
    Bliz Note: As was discussed in another thread, allowing this this gem to rank up to +100% pet Crit would likely cause undesired gearing issues and probably be a little out of line.
    DiabloWikiGem of Efficacious Toxin
    gem of efficacious toxin
    • Poison all enemies hit for 1000% weapon damage over 10 seconds.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +20% weapon damage over 10 seconds.
    • Rank 50 unlocks: All enemies you poison take 10% increased damage from all sources.
    DiabloWikiGogok of Swiftness
     gogok of swiftness
    • 50% chance on hit to gain Swiftness, increasing your Attack Speed by 2% for 3 seconds. This effect stacks up to 10 times.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +1% chance.
    • Rank 50 unlocks: Gain 2% Cooldown Reduction per stack of Swiftness.
     DiabloWikiInvigorating Gemstone
     invigorating gemstone
    • While under any control-impairing effects, reduce all damage taken by 30%.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +1%. Maximum +50% upgrade (80% total).
    • Rank 50 unlocks: Heal for 20% of maximum life when hit by control-impairing effect.
     DiabloWikiMirinae, Teardrop of Starweaver
     Mirinae, Teardrop of Starweaver
    • 15% chance on hit to smite a nearby enemy for 1000% weapon damage as Holy.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +20% weapon damage.
    • Rank 50 unlocks: Smite a nearby enemy every 5 seconds.
     DiabloWikiMoratorium
     Moratorium
    • 30% of all damage taken is instead staggered and dealt to you over 3 seconds.
    • Upgrade rank grants: +0.1 second to the stagger duration.
    • Rank 50 unlocks: 10% chance on kill to clear all staggered damage.
     DiabloWikiPain Enhancer
     Pain Enhancer
    • Critical hits cause the enemy to bleed for 500% weapon damage as Physical over 3 seconds.
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    Max Schaefer on Innovation and Variety in ARPGs

    Posted 19 Apr 2012 by

    Fmulder points us to a new Max Schaefer interview on Rock Paper Shotgun. It’s a good piece, with comments from Max on TL2 and their (controversial) plans to release the very unhurried sequel to the very hurried Torchlight 1, about a month after D3.

    We’ve talked about that before though, so I want to focus on something from the end of the piece, which also came up in the forum thread here (which is a good read). Here’s a quote churn out new FPS titles:

    …In a lot of ways, hack ‘n’ slash are RPGs are only a few paces ahead of Diablo II’s decade-old stomping grounds. Over the course of a time period that saw countless other genres evolve, change, rise, and fall, ARPGs (with a few notable exceptions – ala Borderlands) stuck to samey fantasy settings, basic class archetypes, and even eerily similar interfaces. Sure, they’re fun games, but expectation and stagnation go hand-in-hand. Is Diablo’s oft-drawn well beginning to run dry?

    “You know, maybe I have no marketable skills other than making Diablo-style games,” Schaefer joked. “But you’re right: [the entire genre] is just kinda riffing off that. But it’s a good thing to riff off of. It’s something that hadn’t been done like that previously, and I think there’s a long way to go before it’s a tired genre. You know, just like first-person shooters. How many times can you be looking at a hand holding a gun in front of you while you walk around in a 3D landscape? Turns out, a lot.”

    “I think [lack of innovation's] due to the scarcity of the games over the years,” Schaefer offered. “Certainly, there hasn’t been one that’s been more popular than Diablo, but [in comparison] there’s been a lot of resetting the standard of, say, first-person shooters along the way.”

    “I think [setting] is definitely gonna be one of the ways that the genre evolves over time. You know, people trying sci-fi and other themes for it. But yeah, I’m sort of at a loss to explain why there hasn’t been more [diversity]. But I mean, there haven’t been a large total number of ARPGs that have been big and successful. It’s a tough thing to do.”

    Do RPGs innovate? Is innovation necessary? And why are people assuming a sort of churn out new FPS titles towards D3 vs. other RPGs? After all, numerous developers churn out new FPS titles almost monthly, most of which offer nothing more than “shooting soldiers vs. shooting demons/aliens/zombies” as points of differentiation, and most of them sell quite well.

    If there’s anything to this, it’s probably due to the longevity of a good RPG. No one plans to play the same FPS for months or years, since they’re disposable and fairly generic. Some add limited RPG and customization elements, but basically you play through a couple/few times and you’re done and ready for the next slightly different version of the same thing. RPGs tend to have a longer life, as the character development, item slot machine, and end game features (like PvP) often lead to fans specializing in just one title, and playing it for years. At least that’s the hope of the developers, anyway.


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