Full Monk Skill Tree Stats and Discussion

Posted 23rd Aug 2009 03:02 AM by Flux


The Monk’s skills were an odd mixture at Blizzcon this year. There were only 8 of them, spread over 3 generically-named skill trees, but all of the skills in the game seemed very polished and worked nicely. I suspect that a lot of others are done but were held back to retain more surprises, and that lots of others must be in the “under construction” phase. There were no skills shown with icon and description, and a “disabled” tag, as was true for the other characters.

With only 8 skills, divided up 4, 2, and 2 by tree (The 3 trees which were memorably named “Skill Tree A,” Skill Tree B,” and “Skill Tree C.” Catchy! Descriptive!) there is no way to say how they will be grouped or what sort of trees the Monk will ultimately have. The 8 skills themselves were quite well defined and were all fully functional and polished, and I used them all during my hour+ playing the Monk. The demo character starts off at level 12, with points in 6 of the skills.  I leveled my Monk up to 15 by clearing out every bit of the large, multi-level demo, and adding earned points to enable Way of a Hundred Fists and Inner Sanctuary, so I could test those as well.

One interesting detail was that the skills on the fourth tier, shown between level 15 and 20, were usable as soon as I reached level 13 and had a point to place. Looking at the tree, I thought I’d be unable to use that skill until level 15, since they were listed horizontally, between the 15 and 20 on the left side of the skill tree window. (The same was true of the other characters; they could put points into Tier 4 skills at level 13, so it wasn’t just the Monk.) It’s not clear if this was a change made just for the demo build, or if it’s a change/difference in how skill requirements are processed in the game.

Click through to read them all.

Skill Tree A

This tree had 4 of the 8 skills, with a level 5, 10, and two 15s. All the skills in the 1, 5, and 10 tiers had points invested in them already, so they could be used from the very start. There were only 2 level 15 Monk skills in the demo, the only two Monk skills without points already in them on the demo character, and both were in this tree. Both were fairly cool to use, too, though 100 Fists was the clear champ of the two.

Tier 2
Force Without Thought
Passive skill
Rank: 1/5.
Description: Counteract enemies without interrupting the normal flow of your attacks. When you dodge you automatically counter act the attacker for 10% of your normal weapon damage.

Rank: 2/5.
Description: Counteract enemies without interrupting the normal flow of your attacks. When you dodge you automatically counter act the attacker for 20% of your normal weapon damage.

Rank: 3/5.
Description: Counteract enemies without interrupting the normal flow of your attacks. When you dodge you automatically counter act the attacker for 30% of your normal weapon damage.

Rank: 4/5.
Description: Counteract enemies without interrupting the normal flow of your attacks. When you dodge you automatically counteract the attacker for 40% of your normal weapon damage.

Not much to say about this one, since it had a point in it and I never added any more to see if I could discern the improvement. The Monk hits so fast and was overpowered for the Blizzcon build that needing to dodge or getting your hits interrupted wasn’t a real major problem.

Tier 3

Seven Sided Strike
Mana cost: 30
Rank: 1/5.
Description: Dash at your enemies, striking six times in succession for 50% of your weapon damage.

Rank: 2/5
Description: Dash at your enemies, striking 7 times in succession for 50% of your weapon damage.

A very fun skill. Much like a finishing move in a fighter. The Monk teleports to his target, Dragon Flight style, and commences to strike multiple times. As best I could tell, the Monk was invulnerable, or perhaps intangible, during this attack. He’s not visible except as flashing series of human shapes, all shining gold and two-dimensional. You can see a screenshot to the right, or see it featured in the Blizzcon B-roll gameplay footage. The evolution of the skill was described in detail during the Monk design panel as well.

The hits always seemed to land, and did considerable damage in total. If this one was cast on an empty space, the monk would do three flashing hits before stopping. He’d also stop short of 6 if the target died along the way.  If there were multiple targets in the area, he seemed to select targets randomly, hitting each of them some number of times out of his total of 6.

This one was best used on single or double targets, ideally a boss that needed finishing off, especially a teleporter or another elusive one, since all the hits would go to it in rapid succession, and hit it no matter how it squirmed.

Fun and effective. What more do you want?


Tier 4
Inner Sanctuary
Mana cost: 24
Rank: 1/5
Description: Creates a protected region on the ground for 6 seconds that can not be bypassed by enemies.

Rank: 2/5
Description: Creates a protected region on the ground for 7 seconds that can not be bypassed by enemies.

I tried this one just to be thorough, since there was no need for additional defense at any point during the Blizzcon demo. At least not for the (intentionally) overpowered Monk. When cast, this skill creates a large rune on the ground, with a Stop Time-like bubble shield in the middle of which stands the Monk. It appeared to be impermeable to melee attackers; the Fallen I used it against couldn’t penetrate, at lest. They could reach through it, though. A Fallen Overseer had enough range to whack me with his improvised pole arm, as I stood in the center, immediately after casting it.  Regular Fallen could not though, and just stood ringed around the exterior, waiting their turn.

I didn’t try it against bosses or flying enemies, and there were very few projectile enemies in the Blizzcon build to test that aspect of it against.  And it was never necessary, since I was always better off attacking than standing back on defense, with the Monk.

 

Way of the Hundred Fists
Combo skill. A fast series of attacks strikes enemies in front of you.
Rank: 1/5
First hit: A short range dashing attack that deals 100% weapon damage.
Second hit: Attack rapidly 6 times for 8% of weapon damage.
Third hit: Attack all enemies near the monk for 85% of weapon damage.

Rank: 2/5
First hit: A short range dashing attack that deals 108% weapon damage.
Second hit: Attack rapidly 7 times for 8% of weapon damage.
Third hit: Attack all enemies near the monk for 85% of weapon damage.

Rank: 3/5
First hit: A short range dashing attack that deals 116% weapon damage.
Second hit: Attack rapidly 8 times for 8% of weapon damage.
Third hit: Attack all enemies near the monk for 90% of weapon damage.

This one was a blast to use, and was about the most fun Monk skill. It’s just straight out of an action movie, or some game like Tekken 3. The Monk does a short dash to the first punch, throws a flurry of blows for the second stage, and then blasts an explosive, AoE attack.  It’s an excellent crowd killer, and when used on a monster marked with the Explosive Palm 3rd stage, it’s almost certain to clear the room.

Skill Tree B

Tier One


Crippling Wave
Combo skill. Light attacks that apply a series of increasingly debilitating debuffs.
Rank: 1
First hit: Deals 50% of weapon damage. Enemy movement speed reduced 50% for 2 seconds.
Second hit: Deals 50% weapon damage. Enemy damage reduced 25% and they take 25% more damage from attacks.
Third hit: Deals 60% weapon damage. Debuffs refreshed on all targets.

Rank: 2
First hit: Deals 60% of weapon damage. Enemy movement speed reduced 60% for 2 seconds.
Second hit: Deals 60% weapon damage. Enemy damage reduced 30% and take 30% more damage from attack.
Third hit: Deals 75% weapon damage. Debuffs refreshed on all targets.

An interesting sort of combo attack, since it’s about defensive bonuses. The damage is lower than any other Monk attacks, lower even than just plain attack (which I never used once during my Blizzcon play time).  Like Inner Sanctuary, this one was never needed at Blizzcon. There’s no big end boss anywhere, and the only dangers came from large mobs. This skill could be useful against those, but they were generally easier to just destroy with many fast hits than to weaken first.

This one seems like it would be very useful against big bosses, since it makes them susceptible to damage, while making them deal less to you. Throwing in stage 2 or 3 of this in the midst of other more useful combo attacks could be helpful, now and then, since the curse-like debuff can hit multiple enemies in close proximity.


Tier 2


Exploding Palm
Combo Skill. A quick succession of attacks ending with the deadly Exploding Palm.
Rank: 1/5
First hit: 35% of weapon damage.
Second hit: 50% of weapon damage.
Third hit: Target bleeds for 60 damage over 7 seconds. Moving causes 200% more bleeding damage. If target dies it explodes dealing 60-100% of its maximum life in damage to all enemies nearby.

Rank: 2/5
First hit: 40% of weapon damage.
Second hit: 60% of weapon damage.
Third hit: Target bleeds for 70 damage over 7 seconds. Moving causes 200% more bleeding damage. If target dies it explodes dealing 60-100% of its maximum life in damage to all enemies nearby.

Rank: 3/5
First hit: 45% of weapon damage.
Second hit: 70% of weapon damage.
Third hit: Target bleeds for 80 damage over 7 seconds. Moving causes 200% more bleeding damage. If target dies it explodes dealing 60-100% of its maximum life in damage to all enemies nearby.

This was probably the coolest spell most people saw at Blizzcon, just for the massive blood explosions it created. It was magnificently overpowered, working like an early D2C version of Corpse Explosion. Triggering the third stage of this one, then beating that monster down with 100 Fists, was almost certain to clear any room, killing every monster anywhere near melee range.

It will have to be nerfed in the final game, and probably moved down the skill tree as well, since this is just insane for such a low level skill.

Skill Tree C

Tier One


Impenetrable Defense
Description: Momentarily turn your weapons into an impenetrable wall that rebounds enemy ranged attacks and grants 100% dodge against weapon attacks.
Rank: 1/1
Mana cost: 5

This one was not needed in the Blizzcon build, since the Monk was quite overpowered in combat. I didn’t experiment with his “dodge” ability, which is mentioned as a by product of several skills, since it was so much more fun just to blast everything with his offense. Plus, testing time is always limited, even in the press room. I would have made sure to try the other element of this skill, the “rebounds enemy ranged attacks,” but there were zero monster archers and virtually no projectile spell casters in the Blizzcon build.

Fallen Shaman were fairly common in the surface desert areas, but they seldom hurled Fireballs (they were quite quick to resurrect dead Imps,though). There were lots of Dark Cultists, but only the foot soldiers and the “transform into a demon” types. None of the spell casting mage types. And while there were some weird insect-like mages in the dungeons below the desert, they were infrequently encountered and were always behind a mob of melee enemies, so I never had time to stop beating down the foot soldiers just to try to reflect the (easily avoided) projectiles.

The spell does have a cool animation, at least. The Monk stands still and does a simple staff twirl, while a large rune appears below his feet.


Tier 2

Radiant Visage
Rank: 1/5
Description: A flash of light sears the eyes of all enemies within 20 feet, blinding them for 2-4 seconds. If attacked they will fight back with a 40% reduced chance to hit.
Mana cost: 15

Rank: 2/5
Description: A flash of light sears the eyes of all enemies within 20 feet, blinding them for 3-5 seconds. If attacked they will fight back with a 42% reduced chance to hit.
Mana cost: 15

Rank: 3/5
Description: A flash of light sears the eyes of all enemies within 20 feet, blinding them for 4-6 seconds. If attacked they will fight back with a 44% reduced chance to hit.
Mana cost: 15

A useful war cry-like attack, this one had a substantial radius, and blinded every non-boss in the area, stopping them in their tracks.  I used this against every charge of Fallen Imps (performed when a Fallen Overseer got a mob of 6-12 amped up all at once). No, it wasn’t really necessary, since a bunch of Imps were essentially walking health orbs/combo power-ups, but it was sometimes fun to pretend that strategy was required.




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Telzen
Posted 23, Aug 2009 05:06 AM
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Thanks Flux. Man I hope they aren’t going to make us wait till next Blizzcon for the rest. I’m starting to think maybe this really was the 5th character. They scrapped the 4th and therefore had to show the less complete 5th? The skill trees aren’t even named lol.

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Karzon
Posted 23, Aug 2009 07:09 AM
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Thanks for the huge amount of work you’ve put into all of this.  One question, could you still hold in a mouse button to use the monk’s skills repeatedly like D2, or was it back to D1 clicky-clicky carpal tunnel syndrome?  I’m wondering how that would work with the way combo moves were described in the panel.

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ask_dk
Posted 23, Aug 2009 09:33 AM
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Thanks Flux. Good read.

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elthor
Posted 23, Aug 2009 10:38 AM
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Thanks great stuff! But one thing I’m curious is what kind of resource system did they have in place for the monks in the demo? Was mana ball like the other casters?

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BarbaQ
Posted 23, Aug 2009 10:40 AM
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Love this stuff, monk is soooooo gonna be my #1 character to start with. Sounds very positive on all aspects that i am seeing, maybe finally blizzard has heard the echoes from d2 fanbase \,,/

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entranced
Posted 23, Aug 2009 01:46 PM
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> what kind of resource system did they have in place for the monks in the demo? Was mana ball like the other casters?

The non-passive skills listed above all use mana.

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royale
Posted 23, Aug 2009 11:10 PM
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5 point palm exploding heart technique…  straight out of Kill Bill.  Love Blizzard for this kind of stuff =D

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Elly
Posted 24, Aug 2009 01:49 AM
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For the first time I have reservations about Diablo 3.

Having played Diablo 3 at WWI and Blizzcon it felt fast-paced, action-packed and full of lots of dramatic skill effects.  I played on my own.

Watching this weekend’s official footage of the Monk playing with a Barb, Doctor and Wizard I’m feeling inundated with effects.  It’s exaggerated, I think, from the extremely fast pace of the monk, with his fighting game style moves.  Add to that the flamboyant death animations and I’m getting flashes of headach-inducing images of an 8 player boss show down.  Even with less players in a normal situation in a more confined playing area concerns me.

In some of the battle scenes I’ve seen from Blizzcon 2009 I find myself repeatedly thinking “it’s just such a mess!”.  With a movie player here I’m able to freeze or slow down the action to see some of the cool things that are going on but when you’ve got whirlwinding barbs and Hong Kong Fuey (faster than the human eye) on the rampage and flamboyant skills it can be too much of a good thing.

Less is more maybe.

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TheWanderer
Posted 24, Aug 2009 06:02 AM
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Way of The Hundred Fists
Second hit: Attack rapidly 6 times for 8% of weapon damage.

Are you sure that’s 8%? That makes the total damage on the strike come to 48%.
Anyway, great work guys!

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Flux
Posted 24, Aug 2009 01:00 PM
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Way of The Hundred Fists
Second hit: Attack rapidly 6 times for 8% of weapon damage.

Are you sure that’s 8%? That makes the total damage on the strike come to 48%.

I checked, and that’s what the hover description said. It could be a typo in the game, though? Assuming it is correct, I’d say that’s probably meant to be a limitation to the skill’s power. The other combos are fairly weak in the first or 2nd stage, and since stage 1 of Hundred Fists is very good, and stage 3 is great, they made stage 2 weaker?

Also realize that those hits in stage 2 are dealt in about .5 seconds, so they are literally lightning fast; much faster than the Paladin’s Zeal, for instance.  Very quick fingers would probably get more benefit from switching to Crippling Wave for stage 2.

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adiddevil
Posted 10, Nov 2009 07:15 PM
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haha flux and the wanderer are so dumb...atleast in maths....6 times 8% is more than 48 %......lets teach u how TAKE FOR EXAMPLE WEAPON DAMAGE AS 80... NOW 8% OF 80 IS = 8 THEREFORE 6 TIMES(As he attacks 6 times) = 8 X 6 = 48.......(1) NOW TAKE 48 % OF 80, WHICH IS EQUAL TO 48 DIVIDED BY 100 MULTIPLIED BY 80 = 38.4........(2) NOW, (1) IS GREATER THAN (2).... I HOPE YOU UNDERSTOOD... ALSO 48 IS 60% OF 80....WHIC IS FAR GREATER THAN 48%(WHICH WANDERER SAID AS HE JUST MULTIPLIED THE PERCENTAGE WHIC IS THE WRONG METHOD)...AS THE WANDERER SAID AND FLUX AGREED.

 
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