The Ring of Royal Grandeur (armory) has become the most sought after item in Diablo 3, as its legendary affix is basically mandatory for all end game gearing decisions, given the power of partial Item Set bonuses. The hard part is finding one, as it’s one of the five legendary items that can only be obtained from Act One Horadric Caches. This is good in a way, as it’s the sole remaining item/profit-based reason players have to do *anything* other than RiftRiftRift. (Given the game’s design direction in recent months, I’m frankly surprised the RoRG hasn’t been turned into a Greater Rift Guardian drop.)
Most players hunt RoRGs with brute force, by grinding hundreds of Act One bounties as quickly as possible, which usually means split-farming on Normal difficulty. That’ll work, eventually, but is there a better way? A user in our Diablo 3 community forum named Horadrimm says yes, there’s a trick to it, by following a method players are calling the “Junger Rules.” Quote:
I got 5 RORGS with very minimal effort and so can you!!
How it works: The game has a pity timer, meaning that if you don’t get a legendary within an hour or so it drops one for you automatically. The goal the aforementioned method of farming is to ensure that pity drop is in your horadric cache and not in the world.
What to do:
Do not kill any mobs except those required for objectives. Do not kill goblins. Do not open chests including resplendent chests. Do not destroy breakables (pots, barrels, looting bodies etc). Do not pop fortune shrines. Do not kill mobs from required cursed chest and shrine event objectives until the timer has run out.
Avoiding a legendary drop in the world increases the chance the pity timer drops one in your cache.
First off, the guy who invented this was apparently named Junger, so now it’s called the “Junger Rules.” Which is fine, but how the hell did they avoid the obvious pun and call it the “Junger Games?” So that’s what I’m calling it, since I’m all about obvious puns.
As for the technique, the theory is that since the game has a “pity timer” that increases your chances of finding a legendary item the longer you go without finding one, you can exploit this by obtaining a Horadric Cache after not finding any Legendaries for some time. Hence not killing Goblins, not opening golden chests, avoiding random Elites, etc. This is a sacrifice since it’ll lower your total legendaries found, but boost your chances of finding that all-important RoRG.
Does it work? Some players swear it does, others say it doesn’t. And thus we’re plunged back into the conspiracy theories that are inevitably spawned by item hunting in a game where we don’t know exactly how item drops work. I think the principle is sound, as the pity timer is real, but I’m not at all sure the stated rules are how it should be done.
First of all, we don’t know when items in a Horadric Cache are determined. The Junger Gamers say the legendary pity timer works when you find the Cache, but that seems contrary to what we know about how Horadric Caches determine their item drops. Remember early in RoS, when players were storing Caches up in Normal and opening them on Torment 6? That was a real exploit, easily observed since it caused Imperial Gems to drop from Caches found in Normal. (Which made it seem that items in Caches were determined when the Cache was opened. NOT when it was found.)
Blizzard confirmed that exploit by hotfixing it and adding an internal tag to unopened Caches that tracked what difficulty level they were found on, and the level of the character that farmed them. (So if you find bags with a lvl 70 and open with a lvl 60, all the items will be lvl 70.) Bliz later expanded on that in Patch 2.0.5 when they boosted the chances for legendary items to drop from Caches found on Torment 2 and higher.
Furthermore, Bliz recently confirmed that items from Caches roll their smart drop according to the class of the character that opens the cache. It doesn’t matter who farms the cache in terms of what items drop. That matches my experience and testing as well, as I once farmed a bunch of caches with my DH and my Barb, and then opened them with a WD and got almost all INT gear, plus several Witch Doctor-restricted items.
Regular readers will have noticed quite a few changes on Diablo: IncGamers since the launch of Reaper of Souls which was the motivation for us to make some of the changes we had been thinking about for a while.
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Does playing violent video games lead to violent behavior?Posted 12 Feb 2013 by
Does playing violent video games lead to violent behavior? We see this debate over and over again, especially after any massacre authored by a young male that looks like a deleted scene from some horrible new First Person Shooter, and there’s a nice article from the NY Times that summarizes a lot of recent studies on the issue.
Short answer… probably not. But it’s really hard to separate causation from correlation; do violent people just gravitate to violent games (perhaps gaining a therapeutic release by playing them?), or do the games actually make players more aggressive? In the short term, yes they do:
Lab experiments confirm what any gamer knows in his gut: playing games like “Call of Duty,” “Killzone 3” or “Battlefield 3” stirs the blood. In one recent study, Christopher Barlett, a psychologist at Iowa State University, led a research team that had 47 undergraduates play “Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance” for 15 minutes. Afterward, the team took various measures of arousal, both physical and psychological. It also tested whether the students would behave more aggressively, by having them dole out hot sauce to a fellow student who, they were told, did not like spicy food but had to swallow the sauce.
Sure enough, compared with a group who had played a nonviolent video game, those who had been engaged in “Mortal Kombat” were more aggressive across the board. They gave their fellow students significantly bigger portions of the hot sauce.
Many similar studies have found the same thing: A dose of violent gaming makes people act a little more rudely than they would otherwise, at least for a few minutes after playing. It is far harder to determine whether cumulative exposure leads to real-world hostility over the long term.
Since Blizzard’s games are mostly fantasy/sci-fi type escapes, without the visceral FPS type violence, they never get mentioned in these sort of debates. That’s not to say that players can’t get heated from playing them, though. Losing a match in Starcraft or getting another terrible roll on a legendary drop can certain spur fury, and the results of that “punish him with hot sauce” experiment might be directly applicable to the behavior of some (most?) people on B.net and other online gaming services.
I’m more curious to see research into the real hidden danger of playing Blizzard games… RSI and arthritis. Sadly, many of us are basically part of the test group for this, with results still pending. (I’m fairly sure most of us will attempt to point one quavering, gnarled finger at Diablo when we’re 72 and can’t make a fist with our mouse-clicking hands.)
Another quote from the article, with the conclusions. A section on page two notes that video game sales have more than doubled since 1996, while violent crime by young men has dropped by half, so if there’s some society-wide impact or effect from playing video games, it’s hard to discern.
“We found that higher rates of violent video game sales related to a decrease in crimes, and especially violent crimes,” said Dr. Ward, whose co-authors were A. Scott Cunningham of Baylor University and Benjamin Engelstätter of the Center for European Economic Research in Mannheim, Germany.
No one knows for sure what these findings mean. It may be that playing video games for hours every day keeps people off the streets who would otherwise be getting into trouble. It could be that the games provide “an outlet” that satisfies violent urges in some players — a theory that many psychologists dismiss but that many players believe.
Or the two trends may be entirely unrelated.
Jokes aside, do you guys feel that playing video games is stress relief or anger management? Most of us use gaming as an escape, and after a hard day it can be awesome to sit down and game for a while. Whether that gaming creates a whole new round of stress is another question.
I bet some interesting studies could be done on the relative merits of accomplishment in different types of games. For instance, you unambiguously “win” a lot of games, including FPS titles, by finishing the final mission, killing the boss, etc. You can try to do it with a better score, with more ammo left, while taking less damage, etc, but those are more like side goals? Compare that to a game like Diablo, in which “winning” by killing the boss isn’t the final goal for most players. In Diablo 3 we’re trying to improve our characters which mostly means better items, and that’s a perpetual goal that you never actually “win.” Thus there’s less of a sense of ultimate accomplishment and triumph, especially with the Auction House an instantly-accessible reminder of just how much better your gear could always be?