Regular readers will have noticed quite a few changes on Diablo: IncGamers since the launch of Reaper of Souls which was the motivation for us to make some of the changes we had been thinking about for a while.
When RoS launched we pushed the first stage of front page layout changes live. We know everyone likes to read their content in different ways so the site was changed to a similar layout to the main IncGamers site. Of course not every one will love that format so in the past week we set to work on the second phase which was giving you the option to read the content in the old format if you so desired.
In case you hadn’t spotted it, there are a couple of buttons above the news that allow you to switch to your preferred format.
Probably the toughest job we had to undertake was the forums. We have used the same forum system for around a decade and there were millions of posts to port over. It was important to us to make sure that threads from the old forum were not lost, we’d have hell to pay from you guys if they went missing Remember the great forum crash of 2003? That was not pretty.
So why the change? There were numerous reasons, the next version of the same forum was bloated with features that were useless to the community here. Spammers were also a consideration and the previous software was starting to struggle with the rise in spammers over the last couple of years. We needed a system that could pro- actively catch them and then make life easier for IncGamers moderators to deal with anything that managed to slip through.
The end results once we switched were good. The forums are now easier to use, faster and more robust. It’s taken some time to iron out issues with posts moved over from the old system but I would say we are 95% there with most things now. The forum is now easier to use and has more features to track new content additions.
One of the main issues we had during the change was with your logins. We have a custom login system that ties your forum account to the main site. When we moved forums that obviously broke down and had to be recreated. One of the issues we came up against was the inability for guests to post in the news and members who were logged in seeing a captcha. This was not acceptable so it took a few days for me to sort out but thankfully it now all works.
Regarding commenting on news, originally we had the news post into the community forum but as things move quite quickly here as far as content is concerned, we thought it best to create a separate forum for the news discussions. This reorganisation prevents any community forum discussion being lost in a pile of news. Your discussions are important after all.
Regarding accounts. Some of you have been registered here for over a decade and we have been helping members who have had login issues since the switch because they no longer have access to the email they originally registered with. If there are any of you still caught in that trap then we can sort it for you. Send an email here and we will deal with it.
With the new forums came new features, and something we’ve wanted to do for some time is highlight pro-active members and also award trophies for actions by the community. Elly sat down over a few days to come up with the points and reward system. You may have spotted the icons on threads but so you know how it works I have posted all of the trophies below for reference.
There are still a few things to do but the core updates are now in place. Your feedback on anything we do is much appreciated and a special thanks to the PALS who have helped make all the changes possible with their contributions.
Thread Starter -Points: 15 -You have started 5 Threads
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Primary Source – Points: 1 – Somebody out there liked one of your posts.
The Ring of Royal Grandeur (armory) has become the most sought after item in Diablo 3, as its legendary affix is basically mandatory for all end game gearing decisions, given the power of partial Item Set bonuses. The hard part is finding one, as it’s one of the five legendary items that can only be obtained from Act One Horadric Caches. This is good in a way, as it’s the sole remaining item/profit-based reason players have to do *anything* other than RiftRiftRift. (Given the game’s design direction in recent months, I’m frankly surprised the RoRG hasn’t been turned into a Greater Rift Guardian drop.)
Most players hunt RoRGs with brute force, by grinding hundreds of Act One bounties as quickly as possible, which usually means split-farming on Normal difficulty. That’ll work, eventually, but is there a better way? A user in our Diablo 3 community forum named Horadrimm says yes, there’s a trick to it, by following a method players are calling the “Junger Rules.” Quote:
I got 5 RORGS with very minimal effort and so can you!!
How it works: The game has a pity timer, meaning that if you don’t get a legendary within an hour or so it drops one for you automatically. The goal the aforementioned method of farming is to ensure that pity drop is in your horadric cache and not in the world.
What to do:
Do not kill any mobs except those required for objectives. Do not kill goblins. Do not open chests including resplendent chests. Do not destroy breakables (pots, barrels, looting bodies etc). Do not pop fortune shrines. Do not kill mobs from required cursed chest and shrine event objectives until the timer has run out.
Avoiding a legendary drop in the world increases the chance the pity timer drops one in your cache.
First off, the guy who invented this was apparently named Junger, so now it’s called the “Junger Rules.” Which is fine, but how the hell did they avoid the obvious pun and call it the “Junger Games?” So that’s what I’m calling it, since I’m all about obvious puns.
As for the technique, the theory is that since the game has a “pity timer” that increases your chances of finding a legendary item the longer you go without finding one, you can exploit this by obtaining a Horadric Cache after not finding any Legendaries for some time. Hence not killing Goblins, not opening golden chests, avoiding random Elites, etc. This is a sacrifice since it’ll lower your total legendaries found, but boost your chances of finding that all-important RoRG.
Does it work? Some players swear it does, others say it doesn’t. And thus we’re plunged back into the conspiracy theories that are inevitably spawned by item hunting in a game where we don’t know exactly how item drops work. I think the principle is sound, as the pity timer is real, but I’m not at all sure the stated rules are how it should be done.
First of all, we don’t know when items in a Horadric Cache are determined. The Junger Gamers say the legendary pity timer works when you find the Cache, but that seems contrary to what we know about how Horadric Caches determine their item drops. Remember early in RoS, when players were storing Caches up in Normal and opening them on Torment 6? That was a real exploit, easily observed since it caused Imperial Gems to drop from Caches found in Normal. (Which made it seem that items in Caches were determined when the Cache was opened. NOT when it was found.)
Blizzard confirmed that exploit by hotfixing it and adding an internal tag to unopened Caches that tracked what difficulty level they were found on, and the level of the character that farmed them. (So if you find bags with a lvl 70 and open with a lvl 60, all the items will be lvl 70.) Bliz later expanded on that in Patch 2.0.5 when they boosted the chances for legendary items to drop from Caches found on Torment 2 and higher.
Furthermore, Bliz recently confirmed that items from Caches roll their smart drop according to the class of the character that opens the cache. It doesn’t matter who farms the cache in terms of what items drop. That matches my experience and testing as well, as I once farmed a bunch of caches with my DH and my Barb, and then opened them with a WD and got almost all INT gear, plus several Witch Doctor-restricted items.
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Diablo 3 Economy Strategy: Patch v1.07 PTR Crafting ReportPosted 16 Jan 2013 by
Diablo 3 economy strategy time! With the new patch available this afternoon, I hopped on the PTR and tried some stuff out. I tested out my Monk with the new buffed skills, found Demonic Essences, bought the new armor Plans from Squirt, found another Plan from Ghom, crafted a few of the new items, and more.
They are in the game and working as advertised. They’re another type of crafting material, but surprisingly they are yellow in color, like a Rare. I almost didn’t notice the first one since I’m so used to ignoring 95% of rares that my eyes are trained to just scan for the few types I do pick up while ignoring the rest. After that I had to pay a bit closer attention, but it would definitely be nice if they were a different color. If not something really different, then the usual light blue of other crafting materials, which I’m much more used to noticing than the spammy Rare Yellow. (I hope to buy a color of paint by that name at the hardware store one day.)
DEs dropped quite often in my games. I had to play 4 games to get a plan to drop, all on MP2 with my Paragon 20 Monk. Each game I went right for the boss, but tried different ones, so in the process of stacking up and killing Magda, then Zoltan Kulle, then the Spider Queen, and then finally scoring a Plan from Ghom, I found 13 Demonic Essences.I was playing on MP2, on which DEs have a 26.45% chance to drop from killed bosses. I killed 6 or 7 packs in each game (just enough to get 5 stacks and then one or two more I ran into on the way to the boss); let’s say 26 total, for the sake of the argument. 26 / .2645 = 6.87. Thus I doubled the amount of DEs I *should* have found, via probability. Some observations:
At any rate, it seems like we’ll be finding DEs a lot faster than the other mats required to make these new recipes, so I’d imagine DEs will stack up for most, while players who are really into crafting will be buying a lot of Iridescent Tears to keep the new DE-recipe crafting going.
Why Iridescent Tears? Check out the recipes:
New Crafting RecipesThe new recipes vary a lot. The Archon Armor plans can be bought from Squirt for 1.5m each. There are 4 of them, and you have to buy each one separately to get the armor with Dex, Str, Vit, or Int. They all cost the same to buy and craft, and are very cheap, but have very different values when you craft them.
Armor Armor of Dexterity, Intelligence, or Strength:
Armor Armor of Vitality:
The Str, Dex, and Int are identical. The Vit yields a much higher bonus to the stat, but they all cost the same 75k, with minimal material costs. I made 8 of these armors (I used up all the DEs I’d found since it’s the PTR so why not test?) and yielded 1 that *might* have been vaguely salable on the current market. (The salient stats were 224 Vit, 3 sockets, +pickup radius.) Except of course these armors are all BoA, and such an item is only sort of useful now, since Vit that high is uncommon… but it won’t be once everyone can make these armors themselves.
Note that in the crafting economy comparison article I wrote a few days ago, the top stat values on Armors are all well over 200, with around 280 the top for Str/Dex/Int (on Tyrael’s Might; Rares are 200 and down) and up to 299 Vit on Rares. Here are my 8 examples. Prepare to be underwhelmed.
Theoretically the affixes on these can stack up just like current Rares, so they could go to 300 on the mainstats and 400 on Vit, but you’d need a spectacular roll to get that, and you’d be spending 75,000 an awful lot of times to hit that jackpot. Especially considering that every bad roll is just a gold sink, since you can’t resell any of them on the GAH to recoup some of your production cost. Obviously it’s early, but my quick reaction is that these need better guaranteed stats and/or lower costs to be worth the effort in the current economy.
Just for the sake of comparison, here’s what it costs to make the 3 highest level Rare chest armors from the current crafting plans, pre-v1.07. All must be found or bought; they’re not ones the Blacksmith acquires simply through training. The six-affix version has much higher production costs with no inherent bonus to anything, making the new recipes vastly better options… though of course they’re all BoA, so you can’t potentially sell your great RNG result for a big profit.
The new plans you find have very different costs and stats. I only found the one so far, so theoretically the others might differ some in stat value, but I’m sure the production costs will be similar.
Razorspikes of Vitality:
I made two of these since I only had 50 Iridescent Tears I had available on the PTR. Both were junk, but that’s RNG for you.
So these carry a lower gold cost, and you don’t have to buy the recipe in the first place… but you need a heap of Iridescent Tears, which can only be obtained by salvaging level 60+ Rare or Legendary and (occasionally) Magical items. This seems like a very intentional sink, since hardly anyone uses Iridescent Tears for anything these days, with all of the current high level crafting recipes so not worth pursuing.
I had huge stacks of Iridescent Tears months ago, when I used to salvage most of my finds. I long since sold them off and haven’t been salvaging anything other than Legendaries, and I suspect that’s a fairly common state for players? Someone’s been buying up those Iridescent Tears though, and I bet a lot of you pack rat types have thousands of them socked away… and now’s teh time to dump them on the market, since people will be buying them up to prepare for the v1.07 craft-a-thon!
Or not, since everyone else has the same idea.
Or maybe you should *buy* now since once players can start shedding their Iridescent Tears in v1.07 crafting, they’ll need more and the price will rise.
Personally, as soon as I finished my testing game I logged off the PTR, logged onto the normal realm, and bought 10k Iridescent Tears, hoping/assuming the price will increase as the news of this new use for them spreads (just as gem prices have risen considerably since the patch preview). At that time the price of ITs had gone up about 100g each. An hour later it had increased another 300g to around 700g. An hour after that it was back down to 600g, as news of the new recipe spread and players began to seek profits by dumping their old surpluses. Where the price will go long term is anyone’s guess.
Personally, I’m holding onto my new crop of ITs for the long sale, since I think the price will rise when the patch arrives. I’m betting that the D3 devs are sick of everyone making fun of how awful their first batch of crafting recipes were, and thus if/when people decide these new ones aren’t good enough, the devs will bump them up during PTR time, ensuring that ITs will be sought once the patch is released. But I could be very, very wrong. That’s why they call it speculation.
I’ll add info to this post as the other new plan stats are revealed, and will write a separate article detailing some play changes to the Monk and the new Reflects Damage monster property. Happy testing!