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The State of the Monk: Additional follower or future OP class?

state of the monk in diablo 3It’s no surprise that the Monk class has been in need of some love pre 2.1. However with the second iteration of the patch on the PTR that need has not yet been abided. People are still clamoring for more sweeping changes(pun intended).

I was a heavy Monk user pre ROS and took a break with the xpac to delve into my first love(WD) and my new fling(crusader). I returned to the Monk only a few weeks ago and what I found was a shell of what I had left. After suffering for a long time as a WD it was nice when they finally rose to prominence. After a while on the top I wanted a new challenge and set my sights back on my monk, however even this challenge seems to daunting then all that time as a struggling WD. Diablo Forum MVP Druin put together an eloquent look at the myriad issues facing the class:

Hello everyone!

I am back from vacation and I am looking to write up a concise review of where we stand in 2.1.

My plan is to give a quick overview of our major issues then discuss the 2.1 changes and how they affect the various facets of our class.

I will be using this thread to fine-tune what we want to communicate to the devs and then I will make a major “state of monks in 2.1″ thread on the PTR forums to attempt to get some help for our lovely class! :D

1. Current Monk Issues


This is really at the forefront of the monk issues.

Since the release of RoS, monks have been having a tough time with DPS. We have a very limited range of options mostly centering around the skill Exploding Palm. (Un)fortunately EP is being changed as it breaks greater rifts (along with Rimeheart and Furnace) so our only source of widely competitive damage is going away. This leaves monks in a pretty bad spot.

Our spenders do very little damage (I mean VERY little) relative to their cost and our generators are used more as proc-vehicles for Odyn Son, Thunderfury, Shard of Hate and Rime/Furnace more than as sources of damage themselves. This leaves us with our 6pc Raiment of 1000 Storms which makes DS proc a 3000% weapon damage attack on cast. 3000% damage is a lot and it scales with lightning damage gear but DS has a flat-immutable 6 second cooldown. This can be mitigated to some extent by using Jawbreaker to give “free” dashing strike charges but that interaction is quite clunky.

Basically, monks will be forced into a clunky, hard-to-use situationally terrible Storm-breaker set in order to compete with other classes in damage. If they don’t want to use this mechanic, they will do very poor damage.


Next on the list is our ability to survive. This is a more controversial topic with some finding survival to be quite easy and many others finding it to be quite hard. In 2.1 with the change from dex giving dodge to dex giving armor and the change from OWE to Harmony, many monks who had minor synergy with OWE will see a minor tankiness boost. (my Raiment set for example)
On the other hand, monk who are deeply invested into OWE will see a major tankiness loss. (my Shatter-palm set). In either case, both types of monks probably have a lot of trouble living in T6 without 2x Unity or the constant dashing from Storm-breaker. Why is this? Because monks have to face-tank so much stuff.

Our primary source of resource generation comes from skills that require you to be up-close and personal with mobs which means a lot of damage can’t be avoided. To compensate for this, end-game monks are forced to take defensive passives (Harmony) defensive skills (Epiphany-shroud / Serenity / Inner Sanc / Blinding Flash) and CDR in basically every single spec. This is extremely limiting to the monk playstyle though arguably less of a problem than the DPS as the defensive skill/CDR solution does exist.

Additionally, sustain is nearly non-existent. LoH requires primary affixes which takes away from our already terrible DPS, LPS is the same, LPSS both takes primary affixes AND is extremely poor and Globes took a pretty big hit in 2.1. Monks actually have access to healing skills but, for some reason, they are tuned to be SO weak that they are essentially non-existent.

Resource Management

This is a more fundamental problem than the other two issues. Mere number tweaks would likely not result in this issue being resolved.

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Ring of Royal Grandeur Farming Exploit?

You want? You take!

You want? You take!

The DiabloWikiRing of Royal Grandeur (armory) has become the most sought after item in Diablo 3, as its legendary affix is basically mandatory for all end game gearing decisions, given the power of partial Item Set bonuses. The hard part is finding one, as it’s one of the five legendary items that can only be obtained from Act One Horadric Caches. This is good in a way, as it’s the sole remaining item/profit-based reason players have to do *anything* other than RiftRiftRift. (Given the game’s design direction in recent months, I’m frankly surprised the RoRG hasn’t been turned into a Greater Rift Guardian drop.)

Most players hunt RoRGs with brute force, by grinding hundreds of Act One bounties as quickly as possible, which usually means split-farming on Normal difficulty. That’ll work, eventually, but is there a better way? A user in our Diablo 3 community forum named Horadrimm says yes, there’s a trick to it, by following a method players are calling the “Junger Rules.” Quote:

I got 5 RORGS with very minimal effort and so can you!!

How it works: The game has a pity timer, meaning that if you don’t get a legendary within an hour or so it drops one for you automatically. The goal the aforementioned method of farming is to ensure that pity drop is in your horadric cache and not in the world.

What to do:

  • Do not kill any mobs except those required for objectives.
  • Do not kill goblins.
  • Do not open chests including resplendent chests.
  • Do not destroy breakables (pots, barrels, looting bodies etc).
  • Do not pop fortune shrines.
  • Do not kill mobs from required cursed chest and shrine event objectives until the timer has run out.
  • Avoiding a legendary drop in the world increases the chance the pity timer drops one in your cache.

    First off, the guy who invented this was apparently named Junger, so now it’s called the “Junger Rules.” Which is fine, but how the hell did they avoid the obvious pun and call it the “Junger Games?” So that’s what I’m calling it, since I’m all about obvious puns.

    As for the technique, the theory is that since the game has a “pity timer” that increases your chances of finding a legendary item the longer you go without finding one, you can exploit this by obtaining a Horadric Cache after not finding any Legendaries for some time. Hence not killing Goblins, not opening golden chests, avoiding random Elites, etc. This is a sacrifice since it’ll lower your total legendaries found, but boost your chances of finding that all-important RoRG.

    Does it work? Some players swear it does, others say it doesn’t. And thus we’re plunged back into the conspiracy theories that are inevitably spawned by item hunting in a game where we don’t know exactly how item drops work. I think the principle is sound, as the pity timer is real, but I’m not at all sure the stated rules are how it should be done.

    First of all, we don’t know when items in a Horadric Cache are determined. The Junger Gamers say the legendary pity timer works when you find the Cache, but that seems contrary to what we know about how Horadric Caches determine their item drops. Remember early in RoS, when players were storing Caches up in Normal and opening them on Torment 6? That was a real exploit, easily observed since it caused Imperial Gems to drop from Caches found in Normal. (Which made it seem that items in Caches were determined when the Cache was opened. NOT when it was found.)

    Blizzard confirmed that exploit by hotfixing it and adding an internal tag to unopened Caches that tracked what DiabloWikidifficulty level they were found on, and the level of the character that farmed them. (So if you find bags with a lvl 70 and open with a lvl 60, all the items will be lvl 70.) Bliz later expanded on that in Patch 2.0.5 when they boosted the chances for legendary items to drop from Caches found on Torment 2 and higher.

    Furthermore, Bliz recently confirmed that items from Caches roll their smart drop according to the class of the character that opens the cache. It doesn’t matter who farms the cache in terms of what items drop. That matches my experience and testing as well, as I once farmed a bunch of caches with my DH and my Barb, and then opened them with a WD and got almost all INT gear, plus several Witch Doctor-restricted items.

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    Diablo 3 Beta Patch 13 Official Notes

    Posted 19 Feb 2012 by

    The official DiabloWikiPatch 13 notes have now been released and they are pretty lengthy. Read on for the full notes.

    Diablo III Beta Patch 13 – v.

    A number of significant changes have been made to the character skill and rune systems, as well as to the gold and currency-based auction houses. To learn more about these changes and why they were made, please read the Skill and Rune Changes blog written by Jay Wilson and the Beta Auction House Changes Incoming forum post.


    • All characters have been wiped. Please note that this wipe will also affect gold, DiabloWikiachievements, items, DiabloWikifollowers, and DiabloWikiartisans.
    • DiabloWikiIntelligence now grants 0.1 per point to DiabloWikiresistances, and will no longer award any bonus to healing from DiabloWikihealth globes
    • When dual-wielding, certain skills will now always use your main-hand weapon to determine damage
      • For example, Cyclone Strike will use your main-hand weapon damage even if your off-hand weapon is set to swing next
    • An option to permanently enable Advanced Tooltips has been added to the Gameplay Options

    Auction House

    • The gold DiabloWikiauction house is once again available for testing
    • The listing fee for all auctions has been removed
    • The transaction fee for auctions in the currency-based DiabloWikiauction house has been increased to 1.25 Beta Bucks
    • The minimum listing price for an item in the currency-based auction house has been increased to 1.50 Beta Bucks
    • Players may now only have 10 active auctions per auction house
    • Tooltips have been added which will allow players to compare items on the DiabloWikiauction house to the items they’re currently wearing

    • Public chat is now available to test
    • Cross-game support has been added! You can now chat with DiabloWikiReal ID friends playing the World of Warcraft PTR or StarCraft II PTR, as well as view their in-game status and current broadcasts.


    • The levels at which both active and passive skills unlock have been adjusted for all classes
    • DiabloWikiSkill runes are now available for testing
      • The first DiabloWikiskill rune will unlock for all characters at level 6, and players can unlock additional runes as they level up
      • In total, players will be able to gain access to 5 DiabloWikiskill runes for each skill by level 60
    • Character skills have been broken down into categories, and each category has been assigned to a specific mouse button or action bar slot in the skill UI
      • The following categories will be shared by all classes:
        • Primary Attack
        • “Primary Attack” applies to skills that typically generate resources and can be used frequently
        • By default, Primary Attack is assigned to the first mouse button
        • Secondary Attack
        • “Secondary Attack” applies to more powerful skills that are commonly limited by a cooldown or resource cost
        • By default, Secondary Attack is assigned to the second mouse button
        • Defensive
        • “Defensive” applies to skills which can be used to escape or control the flow of combat
        • By default, Defensive is assigned to the first action bar quick slot
      • Each class will also have three additional categories which are unique. By default, these categories will be assigned to the second, third, and fourth quick slots in the main action bar.
    • DiabloWikiElective Mode: For players who wish to explore character builds which cannot be accomplished with the provided categories, an “DiabloWikiElective Mode” has been provided. When activated, Elective Mode will allow you to place any skill in any skill category slot, as freely as you could before.
      • To enable DiabloWikiElective Mode, simply check the corresponding box located in the Gameplay Options menu.
      • The cooldown on swapping skills has been decreased from 30 seconds to 15 seconds

    Active Skills

    • Bash
      • Weapon damage increased from 145% to 150%
    • Cleave
      • Weapon damage increased from 115% to 120%
    • Frenzy
      • Weapon damage increased from 100% to 110%
    • Ground Stomp
      • Base skill no longer deals weapon damage
      • Stun duration increased from 3 seconds to 4 seconds
    • Hammer of the Ancients
      • Weapon damage increased from 180% to 200%
    • Leap Attack
      • Weapon damage increased from 100% to 125%
    • Threatening Shout
      • Damage reduction decreased from 50% to 25%

    Passive Skills

    DiabloWikiDemon Hunter
    Active Skills

    • Bola Shot
      • Weapon damage to main target increased from 100% to 130%
      • Weapon damage to other targets in range increased from 75% to 110%
    • Caltrops
      • Movement speed reduction decreased from 65% to 60%
    • Chakram
      • Weapon damage increased from 135% to 150%
    • Entangling Shot
      • Hatred generation decreased from 4 to 3
    • Evasive Fire
      • Weapon damage increased from 115% to 125%
      • Pathing has been improved when performing a backflip
    • Hungering Arrow
      • Weapon damage increased from 85% to 115%
    • Impale
      • Weapon damage decreased from 275% to 250%
    • Vault
      • Pathing has been improved

    Passive Skills

    • Steady Aim
      • Damage bonus when no enemies are within 10 yards increased from 10% to 20%
    • Vengeance
      • Maximum Hatred bonus decreased from 50 to 25
      • When healed by a DiabloWikihealth globe, DiabloWikiHatred gain increased from 10 to 20 and DiabloWikiDiscipline gain increased from 1 to 2

    Active Skills

    • Breath of Heaven
      • DiabloWikiSpirit cost reduced from 50 to 25
      • Heal amount increased
      • Now has a 15 second cooldown
    • Dashing Strike
      • Weapon damage decreased from 160% to 80%
      • Pathing has been improved
    • Exploding Palm
      • Weapon damage from bleed effect decreased from 65% to 60%
    • Lashing Tail Kick
      • Weapon damage decreased from 225% to 200%
    • Mantra of Evasion
      • Chance to dodge bonus decreased from 25% to 15%
      • Secondary bonus to dodge attacks, in effect for the first 3 seconds after activation, also decreased from 25% to 15%

    Passive Skills

    • Guardian’s Path
      • When dual-wielding, chance to dodge bonus increased from 10% to 15%
      • While using a two-handed weapon, DiabloWikiSpirit regeneration bonus increased from 20% to 25%
    • Resolve
      • Enemy damage reduction decreased from 30% to 25%

    DiabloWikiWitch Doctor

    Active Skills

    • Corpse Spiders
      • Weapon damage per swing decreased from 38% to 25% per spider
    • Firebomb
      • Weapon damage decreased from 155% to 100%
    • Grasp of the Dead
      • Movement speed reduction increased from 50% to 60%
    • Haunt
      • Duration of Haunt no longer scales per level
      • Now deals 350% weapon damage over 15 seconds
    • Hex
      • Damage bonus to hexed enemy decreased from 20% to 12%
    • Plague of Toads
      • Weapon damage decreased from 150% to 130% per toad
    • Summon Zombie Dogs
      • Weapon damage per hit decreased from 15% to 9% per dog

    Passive Skills

    • Spiritual Attunement
      • DiabloWikiMana regeneration decreased from 2% to 1% of maximum Mana per second


    • DiabloWikiArcane Power regeneration has been lowered from 12.5 per second to 10 per second

    Active Skills

    • Arcane Orb
      • Weapon damage increased from 225% to 250%
    • Diamond Skin
      • Maximum absorption amount decreased
    • Frost Nova
      • No longer deals weapon damage
    • Ray of Frost
      • Weapon damage increased from 155% to 200%
      • Movement speed reduction decreased from 40% to 30%
      • Attack speed reduction decreased from 30% to 20%
      • Duration of slow and attack speed reduction decreased from 5 seconds to 3 seconds
    • Shock Pulse
      • Weapon damage increased from 90% to 105%
    • Wave of Force
      • Weapon damage decreased from 250% to 220%
      • Movement speed reduction increased from 50% to 60%

    Passive Skills

    • Evocation
      • Cooldown reduction decreased from 20% to 15%
    • Glass Cannon
      • Damage bonus reduced from 20% to 15%


    • The cost to level DiabloWikithe Blacksmith has been reduced by 50%
    • The gold and reagent cost of Blacksmithing DiabloWikirecipes has received a tuning pass
    • The following affixes now have a chance to appear twice when crafting items:
      • Min damage
      • Max damage
      • All Elemental damage types


    • Heal
      • Heal amount increased
    • Loyalty
      • Healing per second increased


    • Passive DiabloWikiSpirit regeneration granted by the DiabloWikiSpirit Regeneration item affix has been increased
    • DiabloWikiQuivers will now grant +damage
    • New item affixes have been added!
      • Chance on hit to:
      • Fear
      • Stun
      • Freeze
      • Immobilize
      • Chill
      • Blind
      • Slow
      • Knockback


    • DiabloWikiVendors will now change their inventories more often throughout the game, and will have access to wider variety of item affixes
    • The chance for a white item to appear in a DiabloWikivendor‘s stock has been reduced from 30% to 10%
    • The DiabloWikivendor value of all items has been reduced


    • The health and damage of all monster in the game have been adjusted
    • The amount of gold dropped by monsters has been increased

    Bug Fixes
    For a full list of documented game and service bugs, please review the Known Issues sticky located in the Beta Bug Report forum.

    • DiabloWikiAchievements should now awarded properly once their objectives are met
    • Accounts that were locked by error messages (such as ERROR_395002) should now be unlocked
    • Players should now be able to buy gold using their Beta Bucks

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