The Ring of Royal Grandeur (armory) has become the most sought after item in Diablo 3, as its legendary affix is basically mandatory for all end game gearing decisions, given the power of partial Item Set bonuses. The hard part is finding one, as it’s one of the five legendary items that can only be obtained from Act One Horadric Caches. This is good in a way, as it’s the sole remaining item/profit-based reason players have to do *anything* other than RiftRiftRift. (Given the game’s design direction in recent months, I’m frankly surprised the RoRG hasn’t been turned into a Greater Rift Guardian drop.)
Most players hunt RoRGs with brute force, by grinding hundreds of Act One bounties as quickly as possible, which usually means split-farming on Normal difficulty. That’ll work, eventually, but is there a better way? A user in our Diablo 3 community forum named Horadrimm says yes, there’s a trick to it, by following a method players are calling the “Junger Rules.” Quote:
I got 5 RORGS with very minimal effort and so can you!!
How it works: The game has a pity timer, meaning that if you don’t get a legendary within an hour or so it drops one for you automatically. The goal the aforementioned method of farming is to ensure that pity drop is in your horadric cache and not in the world.
What to do:
Do not kill any mobs except those required for objectives. Do not kill goblins. Do not open chests including resplendent chests. Do not destroy breakables (pots, barrels, looting bodies etc). Do not pop fortune shrines. Do not kill mobs from required cursed chest and shrine event objectives until the timer has run out.
Avoiding a legendary drop in the world increases the chance the pity timer drops one in your cache.
First off, the guy who invented this was apparently named Junger, so now it’s called the “Junger Rules.” Which is fine, but how the hell did they avoid the obvious pun and call it the “Junger Games?” So that’s what I’m calling it, since I’m all about obvious puns.
As for the technique, the theory is that since the game has a “pity timer” that increases your chances of finding a legendary item the longer you go without finding one, you can exploit this by obtaining a Horadric Cache after not finding any Legendaries for some time. Hence not killing Goblins, not opening golden chests, avoiding random Elites, etc. This is a sacrifice since it’ll lower your total legendaries found, but boost your chances of finding that all-important RoRG.
Does it work? Some players swear it does, others say it doesn’t. And thus we’re plunged back into the conspiracy theories that are inevitably spawned by item hunting in a game where we don’t know exactly how item drops work. I think the principle is sound, as the pity timer is real, but I’m not at all sure the stated rules are how it should be done.
First of all, we don’t know when items in a Horadric Cache are determined. The Junger Gamers say the legendary pity timer works when you find the Cache, but that seems contrary to what we know about how Horadric Caches determine their item drops. Remember early in RoS, when players were storing Caches up in Normal and opening them on Torment 6? That was a real exploit, easily observed since it caused Imperial Gems to drop from Caches found in Normal. (Which made it seem that items in Caches were determined when the Cache was opened. NOT when it was found.)
Blizzard confirmed that exploit by hotfixing it and adding an internal tag to unopened Caches that tracked what difficulty level they were found on, and the level of the character that farmed them. (So if you find bags with a lvl 70 and open with a lvl 60, all the items will be lvl 70.) Bliz later expanded on that in Patch 2.0.5 when they boosted the chances for legendary items to drop from Caches found on Torment 2 and higher.
Furthermore, Bliz recently confirmed that items from Caches roll their smart drop according to the class of the character that opens the cache. It doesn’t matter who farms the cache in terms of what items drop. That matches my experience and testing as well, as I once farmed a bunch of caches with my DH and my Barb, and then opened them with a WD and got almost all INT gear, plus several Witch Doctor-restricted items.
It’s no surprise that the Monk class has been in need of some love pre 2.1. However with the second iteration of the patch on the PTR that need has not yet been abided. People are still clamoring for more sweeping changes(pun intended).
I was a heavy Monk user pre ROS and took a break with the xpac to delve into my first love(WD) and my new fling(crusader). I returned to the Monk only a few weeks ago and what I found was a shell of what I had left. After suffering for a long time as a WD it was nice when they finally rose to prominence. After a while on the top I wanted a new challenge and set my sights back on my monk, however even this challenge seems to daunting then all that time as a struggling WD. Diablo Forum MVP Druin put together an eloquent look at the myriad issues facing the class:
I am back from vacation and I am looking to write up a concise review of where we stand in 2.1.
My plan is to give a quick overview of our major issues then discuss the 2.1 changes and how they affect the various facets of our class.
I will be using this thread to fine-tune what we want to communicate to the devs and then I will make a major “state of monks in 2.1″ thread on the PTR forums to attempt to get some help for our lovely class!
1. Current Monk Issues
This is really at the forefront of the monk issues.
Since the release of RoS, monks have been having a tough time with DPS. We have a very limited range of options mostly centering around the skill Exploding Palm. (Un)fortunately EP is being changed as it breaks greater rifts (along with Rimeheart and Furnace) so our only source of widely competitive damage is going away. This leaves monks in a pretty bad spot.
Our spenders do very little damage (I mean VERY little) relative to their cost and our generators are used more as proc-vehicles for Odyn Son, Thunderfury, Shard of Hate and Rime/Furnace more than as sources of damage themselves. This leaves us with our 6pc Raiment of 1000 Storms which makes DS proc a 3000% weapon damage attack on cast. 3000% damage is a lot and it scales with lightning damage gear but DS has a flat-immutable 6 second cooldown. This can be mitigated to some extent by using Jawbreaker to give “free” dashing strike charges but that interaction is quite clunky.
Basically, monks will be forced into a clunky, hard-to-use situationally terrible Storm-breaker set in order to compete with other classes in damage. If they don’t want to use this mechanic, they will do very poor damage.
Next on the list is our ability to survive. This is a more controversial topic with some finding survival to be quite easy and many others finding it to be quite hard. In 2.1 with the change from dex giving dodge to dex giving armor and the change from OWE to Harmony, many monks who had minor synergy with OWE will see a minor tankiness boost. (my Raiment set for example)
On the other hand, monk who are deeply invested into OWE will see a major tankiness loss. (my Shatter-palm set). In either case, both types of monks probably have a lot of trouble living in T6 without 2x Unity or the constant dashing from Storm-breaker. Why is this? Because monks have to face-tank so much stuff.
Our primary source of resource generation comes from skills that require you to be up-close and personal with mobs which means a lot of damage can’t be avoided. To compensate for this, end-game monks are forced to take defensive passives (Harmony) defensive skills (Epiphany-shroud / Serenity / Inner Sanc / Blinding Flash) and CDR in basically every single spec. This is extremely limiting to the monk playstyle though arguably less of a problem than the DPS as the defensive skill/CDR solution does exist.
Additionally, sustain is nearly non-existent. LoH requires primary affixes which takes away from our already terrible DPS, LPS is the same, LPSS both takes primary affixes AND is extremely poor and Globes took a pretty big hit in 2.1. Monks actually have access to healing skills but, for some reason, they are tuned to be SO weak that they are essentially non-existent.
This is a more fundamental problem than the other two issues. Mere number tweaks would likely not result in this issue being resolved.
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Diablo 3 2.0.1 PTR access problemsPosted 12 Dec 2013 by
With the news of the Diablo 3 2.0.1 PTR opening earlier for one and all, players have been dashing to get their PTR accounts up and running and trying tpo access the PTR in the launcher.
There are problems however as the button to create a PTR account on Diablo 3 BattleNet account page does not actually exist. Blizzard commented:
It is thought that if you already have an account set up this button will not show. I have tested this after removing a previous PTR install and the button is indeed missing. An additional note from Blizard read:
- Make sure you’re double-clicking on your D3 game license in Account Management and not just highlighting it or just clicking it once.
- In order to access the PTR, you must use the Battle.net desktop app. The previous PTR client will not work and cannot be used to access the Patch 2.0.1 PTR.
Having already removed the old PTR files from the system here, the option in the launcher is still not available so there is a problem with this.
Thanks for all the reports regarding character copy issues! We’re tracking that issue here.
Thanks for the reports! Are you folks being directed to this link whenever attempting to use the PTR Copy feature?
That last link is dead right now unfortunately but Blizzard are also working on that.
PTR Character Copy Workaround
There is currently an issue with the PTR character copy banner that is causing it to be obscured by other UI elements on the Diablo III PTR client home screen.
While we do not have an ETA for a fix for this, we have identified two viable workarounds for this issue. Performing either of these sets of actions will cause the “upgrade” banner to be replaced with a PTR character copy banner:
- Exiting and then re-entering both the Battle.net Desktop App and Diablo III PTR game client
- Entering a game and then exiting back to the home screen.
We are currently working on getting a more convenient solution in place, but for now these are viable workarounds and should allow you to get your existing characters copied to the PTR.
Please try restarting your Battle.net desktop app, navigating to the Diablo III page using the left-hand side menu, and then clicking on the drop-down selector above the Play/Install button. You should now see an option that says PTR: Diablo III. Click this option; the PTR data should immediately begin downloading.
This is what you should see. If not, the problem is not resolved for you.
We are aware of and currently investigating two issues where players are having trouble accessing the 2.0.1 PTR:
Issue #1: After creating a PTR account in your Battle.net Account settings, the download link for the PTR displays a page indicating there is no download available.
Workaround: In order to access the PTR, you’ll need to download the Battle.net desktop app. While a link may not be available on the download page, you can still download the Battle.net desktop app directly from this page after you’ve created a PTR account. (Note: If you’ve participated in any previous Diablo III PTR, the “Create PTR account” button may not appear. This is because you’ve already created a PTR account.)
Issue #2: When logging into the Battle.net desktop application, the “Beta: Reaper of Souls” option in the drop-down menu above the “Play” button is not available.
Workaround: None available at this time.
We don’t currently have additional details or an ETA for when these issues will be resolved, but they remain a priority for our teams and we will update this thread as more information becomes available.
Thank you for your patience and understanding while we work to resolve these issues as soon as possible.
Update: #1 Blizzard are apparently also trying to track issues via this thread on BattleNet.
If you are having problems let us know in the comments.
Note: If you are in the beta or on the PTR then look for ‘IncGamers Community‘ (case sensitive) to meet up with other windswept and interesting people from the Diablo: IncGamers’ community.