Bashiok on LAN Support, Hammer Lore, and Blizzcon T-shirts

Posted 1st Jul 2009 09:54 AM by Flux

Bashiok went on a forum tear late Tuesday night, touching on a number of issues.

A fan complained about the no-LAN support issue that’s currently gripping the SC2 community and Bashiok replied with an eye towards D3:

Blizzard Quote:

All removing LAN support does is hurt legitimate buyers, pirates will have LAN and their free game.It might take them a while to reverse engineer it, but they WILL have it.

Bashiok: More so than overbearing/invasive anti-piracy measures that would affect everyone who buys the game regardless of how they’re going to play it instead of just those that may want a LAN feature? I would doubt it.

I don’t know a lot about it, Diablo III isn’t really facing the brunt of the Battle.net 2.0 features just yet, but I think that removing LAN in an attempt to avoid more severe anti-piracy measures is pretty cool. We’re saying “Hey, we’re pretty sure you’re going to love our game. The multiplayer is really the best part though. In order to get in on that that we’d just like to make sure you bought the game. Cool?”

In a related post, someone asked if D3 would be free through Battle.net. Bashiok hints that it will be just as free as SC2 will be. A very qualified statement.

Blizzard Quote:

are they going to charge to play diablo 3 online?

Bashiok: Mike mentioned it in an Activision Blizzard investor meeting [paraphrased] “A player that buys Starcraft 2 at retail will have the ability to play on Battle.net with no additional fee.”  I’ll point out that this is a very carefully worded statement.

 

So you mean you have to subscribe to the online fee in order to find the high level weapons and use all of battle.nets features right?

Bashiok: No.

Elsewhere, some dude tries to get overly-clever with the game lore vs. the D3 Hammer of the Ancients skill, but falls just short of completion.

Blizzard Quote:

None of the Ancients use a giant two handed golden hammer. Talic wields a fiery sword and shield and uses whirlwind. Korlic wields a polearm and uses leap attack. Madawc wields dual throwing axes and uses shout. I even checked their lore backgrounds on Diablo2.diablowiki.net and none of their backgrounds suggest the use of a two handed golden hammer.

Bashiok: “Those three are not ancients”
Right. They were chosen as protectors of Mt. Arreat by the Ancients.

First of all, it’s a virtual hammer created magically for a short duration, not a specific item of which only one (for the purposes of lore) exists. If there were a D2 skill called “Blessed Hammer of the Protectors” it wouldn’t mean those blessed hammers were literally the same ones used by some mythological paladin lords.  More specifically in this case, the confusion comes from the fact that the D2 quest and NPC dialogues use the term a bit loosely. Madawc, Korlic, and Talic are called “The Ancients,” and they’re reached via “The Ancient’s Way,” but the actual quest is called Rite of Passage. See the lore sections on each of their monster pages for the story of how they were selected by the ancient Ancients to become the newer Ancients and stand guard over Mt. Arreat.


Finally, someone just noticed the Rainbow Level t-shirts from last year’s Blizzcon, and had some questions about them.

Blizzard Quote:

Two quick questions about the shirts that some Blizzard employees were wearing at Blizzcon

1. Do you plan to sell these?
2. Would you care if I made my own?

Bashiok: 1. Maybe.
2. Probably not, just don’t try to profit from our artwork.


That guy should have been here back in February when we posted this news item. Before the lawyers shut them down…




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Galtrovan
Posted 01, Jul 2009 01:37 PM
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Bashiok: Mike mentioned it in an Activision Blizzard investor meeting [paraphrased] “A player that buys Starcraft 2 at retail will have the ability to play on Battle.net with no additional fee.”  I’ll point out that this is a very carefully worded statement.

Hey… “I’ll point out that this is a very carefully worded statement.”... really?... I said this long ago, “You may be able to buy the game and get online and play for free, but there is going to be some aspect of Battle Net 2.0 that is not going to be free.”  I still don’t know for what types of things Blizzard will charge, but they will charge for something: maybe extra character slots per account, character name changes, transferring characters between realms, hopefully just other bells-and-whistles that are not required and don’t directly impact playing the game.

We’ll have more clues on this once SC2 is released, or maybe BlizzCon 09.

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TheReadMenace
Posted 01, Jul 2009 04:01 PM
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Galt’s concerned with the b.net2.0 payment scheme, but as a lifelong Single Player I’m more upset at Bashiok’s thoughts about the exclusion of LAN.  Maybe he’s right: it could be true that multiplay is the coolest feature.  But even b.netters can answer this question correctly. 

Q: What’s the two worst things about multiplay?
A: Lag, and the part of the b.net community that ruins the whole experience.

First, lag can’t be dealt with when you live in areas of poor Internet access (argue all you want that 400 ping is satisfactory, you’re plain wrong).  And secondly, if I’m going to multiplay, I’m gonna do it on my own terms with the people I choose in a community that I trust.  In short, Blizzard still has me completely upset that they’re forcing me to use their servers if multiplay truly is the best feature.  I’m going to keep my ear to the ground as soon as the game is released, and once there’s a pirate method of LAN play…

...Again, this is coming from a Single Player who never MPs.  But I’m sure in true Blizzard fashion, there’s gonna be some crazy awesome stuff they include only on b.net while the SP crowd gets shafted with a nerfed game.  I’m always waiting for more news about D3 and its impending release, but the closer it gets the more nervous I become… and not in a good way. 

Oh well.  What does Blizzard care if a single eight year fan of the Diablo series is lost?  Not much, in their eyes.
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gtub
Posted 01, Jul 2009 04:14 PM
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mmmm…I played almost exclusively LAN this year on D2, it made is so much easier and exclusive to our dorm suites; LAN parties were awesome, I hope they don’t do away with it completely…

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5zigen
Posted 01, Jul 2009 06:58 PM
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Was going to try to beat the LAN shitstorm but I guess I failed.  I can’t wait to see all the people arguing that having no DRM and including LAN is better policy. 

Bashiok makes a compelling argument, and given the choice between the more invasive DRM policies, or the exclusion of LAN, I know I would chose to exclude LAN every time.  Why?  Because it effects fewer people, period. 

I was reading on another forum about the removal of lan and someone’s complaint (with regard to SC2).  Their post went something like “I am just learning how cool LAN mode is.  Now that more of my friends have laptops, it’s fun to get together and play.  And the cool thing about LAN is that you only have to buy one copy of the game and put it on all the computers.  It sucks that blizzard wont include LAN in SC2.”  And this is clearly the type of piracy blizzard is trying to discourage. 

I have a hard time believing that there is a large community of people who will be so alienated by the exclusion of LAN that they won’t buy the game.  And every comment about the low quality of the B.net community falls on def ears because the B.net community is what you make of it.  You don’t have to play in public.  You can only talk to people you want to talk to, and that’s how I’ve been playing for the past 5 years.

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Galtrovan
Posted 01, Jul 2009 08:02 PM
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I agree with Blizzard on no LAN support.  Anything that keeps DRM out of D3 and slows hacking of Battle Net’s closed servers is a good thing.

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Risingred
Posted 01, Jul 2009 08:33 PM
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I was wondering about this part of battle.net for a while:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/blackbard/bnetpayment.jpg

And I suspect that it will be microtransactions like in WoW.

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Siniz
Posted 02, Jul 2009 12:36 AM
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5zigen, I can’t recall correctly, but in relation to the guy you were claiming playing LAN on laptops with one CD: I think this was perfectly legal with SC. You could install SC on all computers just for LAN plays from the same CD key… you just couldn’t join battle.net or play single player.

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